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beaterKU
2011-09-15, 05:46 PM
Over the next 3 weeks I am going to build a deck with pergola and build a fireplace in my back yard. This had been planned for the last 5 years. I am excited to finally have it installed and be able to use it. The deck is going to be roughly 18' x 16'-6" With a pergola. The patio is an existing concrete slab that I am going to cover with pavers. The fireplace is a kit of sorts that I am modifying to have a larger, wrap around hearth.

Here are part of the plans I submitted to the city. City engineer laughed and said "you're good" lol. He said he had never seen a set of prints this complete.

http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/s720x720/307361_10150313037143011_760368010_7828115_1595458 386_n.jpg
http://a8.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/s720x720/298313_10150313036993011_760368010_7828112_5387544 14_n.jpg
http://a2.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/s720x720/301903_10150313037038011_760368010_7828113_1513361 66_n.jpg

This is a sketch of the fireplace.
http://a3.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/s720x720/294359_10150313037103011_760368010_7828114_8571668 53_n.jpg

Lumber will be on the ground Thurs 9/22. Construction on the deck starts 9/23. Patio construction starts early next week. Progress pictures to follow.

snm95ls
2011-09-15, 05:48 PM
Subscribed.

:smile:

white01ss
2011-09-15, 08:28 PM
Looks bad ass, I am anxious to see how this turns out for you.

I would love to do an outdoor fireplace like that in my back yard.

Buford
2011-09-15, 08:53 PM
Badass! I love it

Hibidi-Shibidi
2011-09-16, 12:26 PM
I hope Theresa doesn't see this. I'll be ordering lumber tomorrow if she does.

Buford
2011-09-16, 04:17 PM
The pictures sold us on doing our landscape - once you see what your backyard "could" look like... it's all over

beaterKU
2011-09-16, 04:38 PM
Once I started drawing, the wife wanted to know what it was going to look like. A couple hours later I had a 7 page drawing set for the deck and 4 page set for the fireplace/patio. The city engineer just chuckled when I put my mass of plans on his desk. I finalized the patio/fireplace plans this morning. I am going to start forming up the foundation for the fireplace tonight.

snm95ls
2011-09-16, 04:39 PM
Lol.

Civil Engineer, correct?

beaterKU
2011-09-19, 09:09 AM
Architectural Engineer, essential a civil, with some mechanical mixed it.

No work this weekend due to this lovely weather :thumbsdown:

dstock1088
2011-09-19, 10:03 AM
Subscribed.

KC_Si
2011-09-19, 10:31 AM
Looks awesome.

Can't wait to see pics of the actual structure when it starts to get put up

CrazieAccord
2011-09-19, 04:20 PM
I hope Theresa doesn't see this. I'll be ordering lumber tomorrow if she does.
:wave:

fortunately/unfortunately we're in the middle of too many projects already.

beaterKU
2011-09-20, 10:12 AM
Ordered the fireplace components & pavers this morning. Install "should" start thursday on the patio and fireplace. It's a good feeling that 5 years worth of planning, dreaming and saving is coming together.

white01ss
2011-09-20, 11:56 AM
Ordered the fireplace components & pavers this morning. Install "should" start thursday on the patio and fireplace. It's a good feeling that 5 years worth of planning, dreaming and saving is coming together.


:cheers:

Glad you are ready to make your dream a reality.

beaterKU
2011-09-22, 06:54 PM
All of the materials arrived today. It is a lot more than I thought it would be lol

http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/s720x720/297985_10150322558128011_760368010_7878936_6472737 23_n.jpg

beaterKU
2011-09-25, 06:34 PM
This weekend we finished up the framing of the deck. We set all but one of the posts, and started laying out the pergola. Digging the pier holes was the hardest part. It took 4 hours to dig all of the piers. I have a pier inspection early this week, so we should pour concrete late this week.

http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/s720x720/305783_10150326386423011_760368010_7901138_2086223 377_n.jpg
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duttbart
2011-09-26, 10:32 AM
that's gonna be one awesome backyard.

polock4life
2011-09-26, 12:31 PM
tell those painters to clean their ladders up

beaterKU
2011-09-26, 12:52 PM
that's gonna be one awesome backyard.

Thanks!

tell those painters to clean their ladders up

It is a 3 man crew. There are literally 15 ladders in that pile and another on the other side of the yard. I guess they are covered if they need an extra ladder or 6!

jasman18
2011-09-27, 12:26 AM
less work MOAR pictures

polock4life
2011-09-27, 12:36 AM
It is a 3 man crew. There are literally 15 ladders in that pile and another on the other side of the yard. I guess they are covered if they need an extra ladder or 6!

I understand the need for having a few big ladders so they can all be up while they are working high, however they need to clean their shit up lol... fucking huffers.

They spraying or brushing? You changing colors or staying something close to the same?

beaterKU
2011-09-29, 11:52 AM
We stayed with the same body color. We changed the trim color to match the anderson windows and trimmed all of the windows.

I am getting a pier and framing inspections this afternoon. Going to pour concrete this friday/saturday. It is getting closer.

beaterKU
2011-09-29, 03:55 PM
Failed the framing inspection dooohhh. I inadvertently used 1-1/2" TECO nails in the joist hangers instead of full 10d 3" nails. Oppsie. So tonight I have to go back and removed all of the short nails and replace them with 3" nails. Oh joy, this shall be fun. Funny think is I knew this, but had a brain fart. Oh well.

dstock1088
2011-09-29, 04:16 PM
That sucks. Doesn't sound too bad luckily.

beaterKU
2011-09-30, 02:20 PM
I've tried to get a hold of the inspector twice now to no avail. The description he left was vague at best. Typical city engineer. I am in the process of swapping out nails, which has proven to be quite time consuming. I am trying to clarify his cryptic description so that I can screw down most of the decking this weekend. I am going to leave out a few boards so he can see hangers, post to rim/beam connections etc... Hopefully he will pass it next week so we can be done with it.

The deck guideline book the county provides is an absolute joke. They require grossly oversized fasteners where they don't need them , undersized fasteners where you do and sometime they just flat don't tell you what to use. I erred on the sized of bigger in most cases. The county commissioner is a family friend, next time I see him I am going to inquire about re-writing the guideline so that your average homeowner with some mechanical knowledge can read and understand it. For example, the nails required for face nailing and tow nailing joist hangers is in the beam span section for calculating beam sizes of the manual. Makes sense right? As it is now, the book covers everything, it is just in an atrocious order, and to be honest, a typical homeowner would probably just say the hell with and hire the job done. Building decks is the simplest of construction, but the county and cities make it daunting.

I am going to take more detailed pictures tonight. It is coming together nicely.

-Nick

beaterKU
2011-10-02, 09:33 AM
Yesterdays progress. We are taking today off. We are finding out we can't work as hard as we could when we were 20. Old aching bodies. The only thing left on the deck in screwing the decking down, building handrails and stairs. Layed the patio pavers and poured the foundation for the fireplace as well.

http://a3.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/s720x720/311889_596629747845_80402083_32643634_1959106793_n .jpg

tim_ws6
2011-10-02, 10:41 AM
Looks nice! Are you going to stain or paint eventually?

beaterKU
2011-10-02, 11:16 AM
Looks nice! Are you going to stain or paint eventually?

Yeah, once it is done my painter is going to come stain it. I feel sorry for the guy who has to stain the pergola slats, there are a lot of the lol.

polock4life
2011-10-02, 12:26 PM
looks good, you're a good man for pulling a permit, 95% wouldn't have and I would be in that 95%.

beaterKU
2011-10-02, 06:16 PM
Form for fireplace foundation
http://a3.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/s720x720/313095_10150335560693011_760368010_7949949_7772594 18_n.jpg


Spent a little time grading out the slope away from the patio. It had been a pretty steep drop off.
http://a2.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/s720x720/301238_10150335562743011_760368010_7949979_1581183 676_n.jpg


Another view of the grading/landscaping
http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/s720x720/301977_10150335562853011_760368010_7949981_6578833 02_n.jpg


Paver patio and fireplace foundation
http://a7.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/s720x720/311751_10150335562968011_760368010_7949982_1809445 733_n.jpg


Pergola
http://a6.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/s720x720/317872_10150335563088011_760368010_7949985_1836622 546_n.jpg


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KC_Si
2011-10-03, 12:39 PM
Awesome!

dstock1088
2011-10-03, 01:44 PM
looks good, you're a good man for pulling a permit, 95% wouldn't have and I would be in that 95%.

I would also fall into this 95%.


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Bustin Dailey
2011-10-03, 04:13 PM
Looking good! I'll have to post up some pics of my patio/deck sometime... I have everything done BUT the fireplace, I have one more winter to go through with this big Chiminea before I make up my mind on the fireplace location. . I have moved this thing the last 2 years trying to make up my mind before putting in something that can't be moved!

HiLandR
2011-10-03, 04:24 PM
Looking good. Did the city engineer say anything about fireplace roof clearance height?

Venting: Naturally vented 3 feet above the roof of a house or a minimum of 3 feet above any point within a 10 foot radius. Depending on the model selected, a masonry or stainless steel, Class A type, all-fuel chimney system can be used.

I just want to make sure it clears your house with any potential "live ash" and that it draws well for you.
:thumbsup:

beaterKU
2011-10-03, 04:29 PM
Looking good. Did the city engineer say anything about fireplace roof clearance height?

Venting: Naturally vented 3 feet above the roof of a house or a minimum of 3 feet above any point within a 10 foot radius. Depending on the model selected, a masonry or stainless steel, Class A type, all-fuel chimney system can be used.

I just want to make sure it clears your house with any potential "live ash" and that it draws well for you.
:thumbsup:

I spoke with the city about it as well as the fire chief. They both said as long as it is at least 10' from the house and deck, I am good to go. They chimney has a sort-of spark arrestor built in to help "catch" rogue sparks before the reach the top of the chimney. Time will tell how well it works. I may have to tweak the chimney design once I use it.

HiLandR
2011-10-03, 04:37 PM
I spoke with the city about it as well as the fire chief. They both said as long as it is at least 10' from the house and deck, I am good to go. They chimney has a sort-of spark arrestor built in to help "catch" rogue sparks before the reach the top of the chimney. Time will tell how well it works. I may have to tweak the chimney design once I use it.

Maybe even just adding a 3' sleeve to the top. Just be really perceptive of the wind patterns and airborne ash the first few times!

beaterKU
2011-10-03, 04:50 PM
Maybe even just adding a 3' sleeve to the top. Just be really perceptive of the wind patterns and airborne ash the first few times!

Exactly what I was thinking as well. The rear of the house faces south, so the southerly wind has me concerned. The chimney is going to be ~82" tall in stock form. I guess I will find out when I burn it in. It has a pretty voluminous cavity just above the firebox, which in theory will help slow and thus cool the embers. It shouldn't have a lot of draw. Couple that with the spark arrestor and it "should" be ok.

Thanks for the pointers!

duttbart
2011-10-04, 11:52 AM
looks awesomeeee!

beaterKU
2011-10-05, 09:28 AM
Started laying out the base for the fireplace. I raised the fireplace a bit that that the heart can span the corner of the patio.

http://a7.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/294097_10150337087008011_760368010_7958927_1271485 069_n.jpg


I think I figured it out. The missing blocks are cuts.
http://a8.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/166973_10150338862588011_760368010_7967052_2076488 402_n.jpg

beaterKU
2011-10-07, 11:13 AM
A little update. The stone for the fireplace base and hearth is cut in and glues. The patio pavers are also cut in and glued. I have all but 3 deck boards screwed down. I have been taking it easy for the last week. This deck has consumed my life for the last 3 weeks. Hopefully Saturday the stairs and railings will be finished up.

beaterKU
2011-10-10, 09:59 AM
The fireplace is 99% done. The only item left is the limestone hearth.

http://a4.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/312854_10150343282088011_760368010_7990266_3940614 56_n.jpg


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white01ss
2011-10-10, 11:37 AM
Looks great!

KC_Si
2011-10-10, 11:42 AM
I literally just said, "Oh wow" out loud when I saw the pics of the fireplace. It looks killer!

HiLandR
2011-10-10, 12:39 PM
Nicely done! Consider some plantings around the back side of the fireplace to "nestle" it in.:thumbsup:

bonecrusher
2011-10-10, 01:14 PM
whats with the half fence on the yard?

davidbanks
2011-10-11, 05:33 AM
Awesome and excellent! Its going to be a wonderful deck and patio in the beautiful garden. Fire place also looks really pretty good. Thanks for sharing.

beaterKU
2011-10-13, 06:02 PM
As it sits now. I am going to work on handrail this weekend. We've had 2 fires so far.

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xjakex
2011-10-14, 04:58 PM
Beautiful man! :cheers: I love how you don't see the ends or sides of the top deck boards.

Hibidi-Shibidi
2011-10-14, 05:05 PM
I just wish I had the time/motivation to finish the projects I have going on. You slapped this thing together in what, a couple of weekends?

KUweatherman
2011-10-17, 03:01 AM
Another amazing looking KCSR deck! Nice job! :cheers:

beaterKU
2011-10-17, 09:21 AM
Thanks guys! We started work on Sept. 24th. So far we have worked on it 8 days. All that is left is to finish skirting the front of the deck, front stairs and build the privacy screen. Hopefully by the this coming weekend it will be finished up.

http://a6.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/s720x720/303234_10150352171533011_760368010_8038821_1833544 777_n.jpg

AceTactics
2011-10-17, 01:18 PM
Very nice! If you don't mind me asking what was the price tag on all of that?

jasman18
2011-10-17, 03:37 PM
I don't know if you realize how much maintenance that is going to be water sealing everything and staining every few years.

I have to replace my entire deck because of subpar maintenance by the previous owner..

beaterKU
2011-10-17, 03:43 PM
Very nice! If you don't mind me asking what was the price tag on all of that?

It was a good bit of money. I'd rather not post specific dollar amounts.

I don't know if you realize how much maintenance that is going to be water sealing everything and staining every few years.

I have to replace my entire deck because of subpar maintenance by the previous owner..

Yeah buddy, it's going to take a lot of stain. I have already lined up a guy who is going to stain in first thing in the spring.

The Lox
2011-10-17, 06:24 PM
I don't know if you realize how much maintenance that is going to be water sealing everything and staining every few years.

I have to replace my entire deck because of subpar maintenance by the previous owner..

That is what Mexcian Day laborers are for...or Hibidi...:cheers:

J/K though in reality, but seriously, that is why you pay someone else to mess with it...

CrazieAccord
2011-10-18, 02:08 PM
Wow! That looks fantastic! Huge props!

AKSC
2011-10-18, 08:38 PM
That is what Mexcian Day laborers are for...or Hibidi...:cheers:

J/K though in reality, but seriously, that is why you pay someone else to mess with it...

Don't do that! We learned the hardway, when some mexicans painted our house a couple weeks back. They came back a few days later, broke the rear window, and took our 250lb fire-safe from our second floor. :shock:

Just don't want anybody going through all of that again and losing a shit load of important stuff.

beaterKU
2011-10-25, 10:20 AM
It's Done! Minus a little yard work to clean up a little bit and the limestone hearth caps. It took a solid 10 days of work to finish it up. My wife absolutely loves it. She asked me since this one is so grand, how am I going to top it on our next house. I have a few ideas up my sleeve. In the spring I am going to work on installing low light downlighting and the wife would like a chandelier over the table.

http://a2.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/s720x720/305397_10150361938478011_760368010_8094337_2011982 096_n.jpg

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Mobbes
2011-10-25, 01:24 PM
looks fantastic man....I need to do that to my house!

jasman18
2011-10-25, 02:29 PM
I need to figure out how you guys are designing these. And how you know the code requirements.

beaterKU
2011-10-25, 02:35 PM
I need to figure out how you guys are designing these. And how you know the code requirements.

I am an engineer so I was able to do the design myself. As far as codes, I am familiar with all of the codes from school and work.

JOCO has a manual that is pretty good at explaining the whole process. You can google deck guidelines handbook and look through it. As long as you stick with a basic shape with one level (stay away from tiered decks) you will be fine designing what ever you'd like.

The Lox
2011-10-26, 01:24 PM
Looks great!

shreenmike
2011-10-29, 11:45 AM
I can only suggest you in this matter.I am really busy in project and i think your have done this work till yet .This post is a month older.

guesswho?
2011-12-13, 01:22 PM
Wow, another great build! Looks great, man. I can't wait until I get a house! :thumbsup:

sleek98
2015-04-21, 09:01 AM
Beater. I still have a couple of your deck pictures saved on my ipad from over 3 years ago.

After having it up for a few years anything you would have done differently? The wife and I are planning on starting our deck next month.

beaterKU
2015-04-21, 10:58 AM
Beater. I still have a couple of your deck pictures saved on my ipad from over 3 years ago.

After having it up for a few years anything you would have done differently? The wife and I are planning on starting our deck next month.

Thanks! There are two things I would have done differently.


Set the steps on the front side into the deck like I did on the side steps
Used a steel beam across the center of the pergola and furred it out with cedar


Other than that, we love it!