The Pacific

[Immaculate]

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0374463/

noUJHcdX6KU

Can't fucking wait! I loved Band of Brothers. Generation Kill was awesome as well (Not same writers/producers, but another HBO Mini-series on war) I'm sure this won't suck. :headbang:

[Hap Hazard]

Can't wait!! I hope they do it just like BOB. At least 10 episodes.

[Immaculate]

Can't wait!! I hope they do it just like BOB. At least 10 episodes.

Plot:
A 10-part mini-series from the creators of "Band of Brothers" telling the intertwined stories of three Marines during America's battle with the Japanese in the Pacific during World War II.:thumbsup:

[bonecrusher]

bumping this back up, was reading and it starts in about a week and half on hbo!

[slow03]

looks awesome, but watching MARINES takin care of business is always fun to watch

[freekwonder]

looks awesome, but watching MARINES takin care of business is always fun to watch

:wstupid:

I can't fucking wait. I actually picked up one of the books that the series is based off of.

[ksuchewie]

I've got it set on my DVR

[ItalionStallion888]

I can't wait, I loooooved band of brothers, this should be just as amazing and I get to watch it in HD this time around

[Travis]

really excited about this.

[Immaculate]

Oh snap. Someone used the search function!

[bonecrusher]

i canst read with mi edumacation

[The Lox]

Set to record! I am just watching Band Of Brothers for the first time too..

[freekwonder]

Set to record! I am just watching Band Of Brothers for the first time too..

Awesome series. I can honestly see it was hard not to have my eyes water up at the end.

[Ricerking13]

Set to record! I am just watching Band Of Brothers for the first time too..

Just now watching Band of Brothers? Wow... lol.

I've sat through all the episodes at least 5 times over the last 3-4yrs.

Have em on Bluray... so awesome.

[Go4Broke]

I can't wait for this to come out been waiting awhile and love the Band of Brothers series but I don't get the feeling this is going to be as good as Band of brothers, looks like they have added alot of CG to this one

[Immaculate]

I can't wait for this to come out been waiting awhile and love the Band of Brothers series but I don't get the feeling this is going to be as good as Band of brothers, looks like they have added alot of CG to this one
You shut your whore mouth! it's gonna rule!

[freekwonder]

I can't wait for this to come out been waiting awhile and love the Band of Brothers series but I don't get the feeling this is going to be as good as Band of brothers, looks like they have added alot of CG to this one

:fu: You are right it won't be as good, it will be a million times better, it's Marines in the fucking pacific. Guadacanal, Iwo Jima, ect....ect.... :headbang:

[Immaculate]

:fu: You are right it won't be as good, it will be a million times better, it's Marines in the fucking pacific. Guadacanal, Iwo Jima, ect....ect.... :headbang:
Fucking this! Semper Fidelis!

[Karlen]

I want to see Wake Island. :ryan:

[redlobster]

there is a reason the men that fought in this war are referred to as "the greatest generation"

so pumped to see this

[ctprelude]

When does this start? I'm going to have to order HBO just so I can watch.

[ItalionStallion888]

next sunday

[Go4Broke]

just a few more hours

[Immaculate]

T-1 hour 39 minutes! CHECK ME!

[Karlen]

Turns out I have the channel. WIN!

[JDLM]

In HD!!!!!!!

:lol:

[Karlen]

In HD!!!!!!!

:lol:

I'm so STOKED. I can't believe how stoked I am. :lol2:

Now if these stupid ass NOLA NOLA NOLA ads would go away, I'd be ECSTATIC. Haha

[Immaculate]

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0374463/

noUJHcdX6KU

Can't fucking wait! I loved Band of Brothers. Generation Kill was awesome as well (Not same writers/producers, but another HBO Mini-series on war) I'm sure this won't suck. :headbang:
Almost 5 months later, and its here. :shock::worship:

[Immaculate]

Opening scene goosebumps? Check.

[Karlen]

Opening scene goosebumps? Check.

WTF ties on those Alpha's they're wearing. :lol2:

[Immaculate]

Lots of little things that are bothering me, but a good show so far.

[Karlen]

Lots of little things that are bothering me, but a good show so far.

Fuck it, just let it out.

I didn't like the shooting scenes...seemed cheesy.
I don't get the same feeling as I do when I watch Band of Brothers. And I don't know why.

[ctprelude]

Pretty good opening episode! I really didn't figure that we'd see any combat in the first one, so the small amount was a definite plus!

[Sparticus95]

This is already a good show, they are pulling in the elements that made BoB so good!

[JDLM]

not too bad

[Immaculate]

The GAPING hole in the story though is when the Canal boats get hung up in a low tide, and the marines get cut to pieces. With men swimming nearly 600 yards to shore, and holding the banks all night with no support until tide came in, and they got relief. HARD FUCKING MEN how do you leave that part out?!?!

[ksuchewie]

looks good so far, cant wait until next week.

[Slowleen]

The GAPING hole in the story though is when the Canal boats get hung up in a low tide, and the marines get cut to pieces. With men swimming nearly 600 yards to shore, and holding the banks all night with no support until tide came in, and they got relief. HARD FUCKING MEN how do you leave that part out?!?!

I will admit to being ignorant to the details of this piece of history, but using the ol' Internet I can't find anything about what you are saying.

Your scenario may have made a more intriguing start to this TV series. I thought it was slightly dry.

[ItalionStallion888]

I enjoyed it, but I don't get the same feel as bob, but that's to be expected.

[Immaculate]

I will admit to being ignorant to the details of this piece of history, but using the ol' Internet I can't find anything about what you are saying.

Your scenario may have made a more intriguing start to this TV series. I thought it was slightly dry.
:banghead: I'm a moron! That was Tarawa.

I can NOT wait to see that shit! Sorry if I'm spoiling anything for you guys but it's history. Not like Spielberg wrote the script. :mrgreen:

[Karlen]

This series should cover Tarawa, Iwo Jima, Wake, Midway..Ill try to remember more today.

[freekwonder]

This series should cover Tarawa, Iwo Jima, Wake, Midway..Ill try to remember more today.

:headbang: Holy fuck I can't wait until next week.

The series is based off of a couple books. I grabbed a book "I'm Staying with my boys" that I plan on reading soon, its the biography of John Basilone.

The Pacific is based primarily on two memoirs of U.S. Marines: With the Old Breed by Eugene Sledge and Helmet for My Pillow by Robert Leckie.[3] The series will tell the stories of the two authors and Marine John Basilone, as the war against the Empire of Japan rages. It also draws on Sledge's China Marine[28] and Red Blood, Black Sand,[29] the memoir of Chuck Tatum, a Marine who fought alongside Basilone at Iwo Jima and witnessed his death.

Looks like this is what they plan to show the most. I don't see them going to Tarawa, wake, or midway. Midway already happened, that is where they got the name for Henderson Field. William Sadler probably has one of the best yet hardest roles in the series. He is playing a god among men.

# Title Directed by Written by Original airdate
1 "Part One" Tim Van Patten[32] Bruce C. McKenna March 14, 2010
Robert Leckie and the 1st Marines land on Guadalcanal and take part in the Battle of the Tenaru.

2 "Part Two" David Nutter Bruce C. McKenna March 21, 2010
John Basilone and the 7th Marines land on Guadalcanal to bolster the defenses around Henderson Field.

3 "Part Three" Jeremy Podeswa George Pelecanos & Michelle Ashford March 28, 2010
The 1st Marine Division on Guadalcanal is relieved and arrives in Melbourne, Australia. Basilone receives the Medal of Honor and returns home to sell war bonds.

4 "Part Four" Graham Yost Robert Schenkkan & Graham Yost April 4, 2010
Eugene Sledge enlists in the Marines and trains for combat, while Leckie and the 1st Marine Division are put into action at Cape Gloucester.

5 "Part Five" Carl Franklin Laurence Andries & Bruce C. McKenna April 11, 2010
Sledge and Leckie land with the 1st Marine Division at Peleliu.

6 "Part Six" Tony To Bruce C. McKenna & Laurence Andries & Robert Schenkkan April 18, 2010
The Marines move to capture Peleliu's vital airfield. Leckie is wounded by blast concussion and evacuated.

7 "Part Seven" Tim Van Patten Bruce C. McKenna April 25, 2010
Sledge and the 5th Marines move into Peleliu's Bloody Nose Ridge to face the Japanese.

8 "Part Eight" David Nutter & Jeremy Podeswa Robert Schenkkan & Michelle Ashford May 2, 2010
Basilone is transferred to the 5th Marine Division and lands at Iwo Jima.

9 "Part Nine" Tim Van Patten Bruce C. McKenna May 9, 2010
Sledge and the 1st Marine Division land at Okinawa.

10 "Part Ten" Jeremy Podeswa Bruce C. McKenna & Robert Schenkkan May 16, 2010
Sledge and Leckie return home after the Japanese surrender.

[mikejb]

Might wanna check out WWII in HD. It's out on DVD and is a good watch with alot of actual footage never seen before. They cover both Europe and Pacific.

For me I found the first episode that the Marines had no idea what they were walking into until the shit started to hit the fan.

I do think that Midway needed to be told in this. I hope one day it is remade with a current all star cast.

[Ricerking13]

Immaculate discovered his confusion...

I'm all about Tarawa, gonna be sick.

I started out against the beginning... very "light" compared to the "dark" that was BOB.

But when said and done I LOVED IT...

I also was shocked to see so much action in the first episode... just like BOB you can't feel character relationships yet, however you can DEFINITELY see where you'll be able to as the story progresses.

So much win in this first episode... can't wait to continue...

[freekwonder]

It's really hard to compare this to BOB, the only thing they have in common is they are both WWII.

I thought BOB started out with them at training? I can't remember exactly it's been awhile since I've seen it. But I wouldn't really call that dark compared to straight walking into the bush and unknown "light".

[spyde25]

Just started it last night. I dont have HBO but i have the 101 which replays it in HD. looking FWD to the whole series. I have enjoyed what i have seen so far. would like a little more character development and background.

[Ricerking13]

It's really hard to compare this to BOB, the only thing they have in common is they are both WWII.

I thought BOB started out with them at training? I can't remember exactly it's been awhile since I've seen it. But I wouldn't really call that dark compared to straight walking into the bush and unknown "light".

Yeah, and it's possible I'm remembering the overall feel, not just the first episode...

The first BOB was all training, and build-up for D-day.

Which is kind of why I was so surprised at the immediate action we got with the pacific.

The "light" I was referring to, is more the family feel/attitudes... I just never feel like the pacific seemed as daunting to the soldiers fighting there... even though it WAS every bit as much.

[freekwonder]

Remember both series are based on books. It is how the books started, plus the pacific didn't have a few years of conflict to get ideas and train for a special mission, it was from the get go after Pearl Harbor, hell Marines were already repelling Japanese attacks on Wake island the same time they were attacking Pearl Harbor.

As for the last statement, it's a little conflicting what you are saying. I can't say I'm offended by it, but it is just.....I don't know......It's like as a society America almost forgets about the Pacific theater. It's all about D-Day.

[Immaculate]

Bump. About to watch the 2nd episode. Hope it's awesome!

[ctprelude]

Does anyone know the budgets of both series? So far there is just something about it that seems like it was made on a much smaller budget compared to Band of Brothers. The battle scenes so far just don't seem to look as realistic or intense.

[ItalionStallion888]

Does anyone know the budgets of both series? So far there is just something about it that seems like it was made on a much smaller budget compared to Band of Brothers. The battle scenes so far just don't seem to look as realistic or intense.

there is not a whole lot you can do when you are fighting in a jungle shooting across a field. It's not like they have buildings and what not like in BOB's for scenery yet.

[ctprelude]

there is not a whole lot you can do when you are fighting in a jungle shooting across a field. It's not like they have buildings and what not like in BOB's for scenery yet.

I just re-watched the 2nd episode since I missed part of the first half and I don't think props are the difference. For one, it's definitely shot in a different film or with different effects, which I don't like. I enjoyed the gritty type look that BOB and Saving Private Ryan had to almost make you feel like you were in the real thing. The film used on this so far just looks like, well, a movie. It's also almost like they are shooting the battle scenes in a set rather than actually in the field with how small the areas look. The explosions are weak and look very fake and the sound effects aren't as good either. I guess my expectations are probably a little high considering BOB and SPR are both amazing, but so far The Pacific isn't even close. Hopefully my opinion will change as we get further into the series.:thumbsdown:

[Ricerking13]

I'd have to disagree about the sound effects not being as good... the picture is beautiful... and they are making the place seem down right awful... which I was worried about.

I enjoyed the first episode... I LOVED the second... it was just incredible IMO.

[Immaculate]

I just re-watched the 2nd episode since I missed part of the first half and I don't think props are the difference. For one, it's definitely shot in a different film or with different effects, which I don't like. I enjoyed the gritty type look that BOB and Saving Private Ryan had to almost make you feel like you were in the real thing. The film used on this so far just looks like, well, a movie. It's also almost like they are shooting the battle scenes in a set rather than actually in the field with how small the areas look. The explosions are weak and look very fake and the sound effects aren't as good either. I guess my expectations are probably a little high considering BOB and SPR are both amazing, but so far The Pacific isn't even close. Hopefully my opinion will change as we get further into the series.:thumbsdown:


Not to sound like a dick, but I dont think you know much about what youre watching. Everything I saw looked about as real as it could have. This was 1942 they didnt have JDAMs and RPGs. Thats how the battles were fought in the pacific. I really liked how they made a point to show the Garands the army got to play with while the Marines actually doing most of the fighting fought with Springfields from WWI. "Marines make due"

Everything looks pretty much true to form to me, and I LOVE the series thus far.

[Immaculate]

I'd have to disagree about the sound effects not being as good... the picture is beautiful... and they are making the place seem down right awful... which I was worried about.

I enjoyed the first episode... I LOVED the second... it was just incredible IMO.
.

[Ricerking13]

Not to sound like a dick, but I dont think you know much about what youre watching. Everything I saw looked about as real as it could have. This was 1942 they didnt have JDAMs and RPGs. Thats how the battles were fought in the pacific. I really liked how they made a point to show the Garands the army got to play with while the Marines actually doing most of the fighting fought with Springfields from WWI. "Marines make due"

Everything looks pretty much true to form to me, and I LOVE the series thus far.

SO concur about the weapon difference... and omfg thank the lord a movie actually showed/utilized a realistic weapon issue... we got both a legit weapon malfunction and fix, as well as showing a machine guns barrel being so hot it gave 3rd degree burns to a marine... fucking AWESOME.

[Immaculate]

SO concur about the weapon difference... and omfg thank the lord a movie actually showed/utilized a realistic weapon issue... we got both a legit weapon malfunction and fix, as well as showing a machine guns barrel being so hot it gave 3rd degree burns to a marine... fucking AWESOME.
Not to mention that guy going complete berzerker mode, and taking out like 50 japs. :worship:

[ctprelude]

Not to sound like a dick, but I dont think you know much about what youre watching. Everything I saw looked about as real as it could have. This was 1942 they didnt have JDAMs and RPGs. Thats how the battles were fought in the pacific. I really liked how they made a point to show the Garands the army got to play with while the Marines actually doing most of the fighting fought with Springfields from WWI. "Marines make due"

Everything looks pretty much true to form to me, and I LOVE the series thus far.

I didn't say anything about being realistic in terms of the story, weapons, or anything of that nature. In fact, I agree they have done a very good job showing the "leftover" weapons in the Springfield 1903 and M1917 that the Marines were using. The scavaging/stealing from the Army was also a nice touch of something Marines would do to get what they needed. I'm talking from a strictly visual/effects basis. I have zero idea what you mean bringing up modern day weapons and saying that's how battles were fought back then. Go rewatch this 2nd episode and then watch a combat scene from either BOB or Private Ryan and tell me there isn't a HUGE difference. In the latter you actually feel like you're in the battle rather than just watching it going on from the side. Mortar rounds actually shake the earth and make realistic blasts giving you a glimpse into how terrifying they would be if you were there. The sound effects of the bullets cracking and whizzing around, etc. It's just blatantly obvious that this was made on a much lower budget. Don't get me wrong I still like the series so far, but it's just not even close to the other two from a realistic visuals standpoint.

[Immaculate]

I didn't say anything about being realistic in terms of the story, weapons, or anything of that nature. In fact, I agree they have done a very good job showing the "leftover" weapons in the Springfield 1903 and M1917 that the Marines were using. The scavaging/stealing from the Army was also a nice touch of something Marines would do to get what they needed. I'm talking from a strictly visual/effects basis. I have zero idea what you mean bringing up modern day weapons and saying that's how battles were fought back then. Go rewatch this 2nd episode and then watch a combat scene from either BOB or Private Ryan and tell me there isn't a HUGE difference. In the latter you actually feel like you're in the battle rather than just watching it going on from the side. Mortar rounds actually shake the earth and make realistic blasts giving you a glimpse into how terrifying they would be if you were there. The sound effects of the bullets cracking and whizzing around, etc. It's just blatantly obvious that this was made on a much lower budget. Don't get me wrong I still like the series so far, but it's just not even close to the other two from a realistic visuals standpoint.

It's the exact same producers! Hanks, and Jewberg. They probably spent more money on this production than BOB.

The movies you are talking about take place in a completely different theater of war. Of course it's not the same.

And what I mean by modern weapons is they go boom alot differently than what those guys fought with on those rocks in the ocean.

[freekwonder]

I just re-watched the 2nd episode since I missed part of the first half and I don't think props are the difference. For one, it's definitely shot in a different film or with different effects, which I don't like. I enjoyed the gritty type look that BOB and Saving Private Ryan had to almost make you feel like you were in the real thing. The film used on this so far just looks like, well, a movie. It's also almost like they are shooting the battle scenes in a set rather than actually in the field with how small the areas look. The explosions are weak and look very fake and the sound effects aren't as good either. I guess my expectations are probably a little high considering BOB and SPR are both amazing, but so far The Pacific isn't even close. Hopefully my opinion will change as we get further into the series.:thumbsdown:

That's because they were fighting on tiny fucking islands. Supposedly the budget was around 150 million. And it is all filmed on island around Australia, no sets. Fighting in cities is completely different than fighting in the wide open jungle.

[ItalionStallion888]

and I don't know about you guys, but my entire house was shaking last night thanks to my surround sound. Maybe your TV just sucks or something, the picture looks amazing, and I'm pretty sure I heard the tink as the one dude's helmet got knocked off by a round.

[ctprelude]

Lol, apparently you guys cannot comprehend what I'm saying. Trust me, I realize the difference between the different theaters. My dad is a former Marine and I've read plenty of books covering WWI, WWII, Korea, Vietnam, etc. Regardless if they are the same producers or not, they are obviously using a completely different filming style and special effects. The theater has absolutely ZERO bearing on what explosions and whatnot should look like. And I agree that modern weapons are obviously going to be more devastating, but we're comparing WWII movies, not modern day stuff so that's irrelevant. I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree that the battle scenes so far in this look as good as BOB and SPR. :cheers:

On a separate note, I hope that they stick mostly with in country episodes versus U.S. life and whatnot. From the previews it looked like the next one might be focusing more on the one guy that just earned that medal going back home. Still very excited to see how it progresses!

[Ricerking13]

I'm also nervous at a switch off the islands and back to home life...

But yeah just going to have to agree to disagree I suppose... I for one think the audio/video of this is as good or better than BOB/SPR.

One thing to keep in mind on the video is that the battle scenes are almost entirely filmed at night... so that's going to change what you are seeing compared to many of the action/battles in BOB.

I'm kind of shocked you don't like the audio... I have no explanation why that would be, my sub is rattling the walls with explosions, and I'm getting zinging bullets and machine gun fire as pretty as anything that's played through my system.

[ctprelude]

I'm also nervous at a switch off the islands and back to home life...

But yeah just going to have to agree to disagree I suppose... I for one think the audio/video of this is as good or better than BOB/SPR.

One thing to keep in mind on the video is that the battle scenes are almost entirely filmed at night... so that's going to change what you are seeing compared to many of the action/battles in BOB.

I'm kind of shocked you don't like the audio... I have no explanation why that would be, my sub is rattling the walls with explosions, and I'm getting zinging bullets and machine gun fire as pretty as anything that's played through my system.

I guess I should clarify. I by no means think either the audio or video are bad, just IMO doesn't seem to be up to par with BOB. The audio IMO is definitely better than the rest of the visual effects.

[Karlen]

Watching the second episode now, couldn't get on the tv last night..we'll see how it goes. :noes:

[Karlen]

Anyone else still watching the show? I just now caught up with episode 3.
Gawd damn this is an amazing show.
100 miles in 3 days, on nothing but rice? I'd tell the CO to fuck himself on that idea.

[Ricerking13]

3rd episode was a big change of pace... the greek chick was hot... no doubts there... love some tits... but ready to get back to the war.

[ctprelude]

3rd episode was a big change of pace... the greek chick was hot... no doubts there... love some tits... but ready to get back to the war.

Definitely some good lookin lasses. Was a decent episode, but yea I'm ready to see some more action as well. Next episode looks like it could be good!

[SpeedRotary]

I really want to watch this! I might wait until all the episodes are out and subscribe to HBO and watch them consecutively. You guys are making me want to order it now though. :mrgreen: :cheers:

[Mobbes]

Show is badass....Karlen I am blaming you for this.

[Karlen]

Show is badass....Karlen I am blaming you for this.

:lol2: Ooook. :mrgreen:

[freekwonder]

"The Americans on this Island are not ordinary troops, but Marines, a special force recruited from jails and insane asylums for blood lust"

Marines don't have to make up stories about ourselves, the enemy does it for us. :mrgreen:

Yes the third episode was a bit slow compared to the 2nd one, but shit the second episode is going to be hard to follow up. Taking on over 5,000 Japanese assault. SSgt Basilon is a fucking badass through and through :bowdown: Looking at the episode thing posted earlier I'm hoping they don't follow Basilon on the war bond tour, but that's what happened to those guys. Look at the three servitors from the Iwo Jima flag raising. Even before the Island was cleared they were pulled back to the states for the war bond drives.

[Just Is]

the show seems to be going pretty slow. the previews for the next episode look promising though! :thumbsup:

[Karlen]

I missed the previews for next episode, going to check now.

Also, JEEBUS this show is awesome. Love every minute of it.

[Immaculate]

Best episode yet IMO.

[freekwonder]

Holy fuck the 7th episode was just........fucked up.

For those saying it isn't dark enough or the Europe was more daunting. :thumbsup: Hope you watched the last few episodes.

[Karlen]

I finally got a chance to catch up on episodes 5 and 6 on Sunday, then episode 7 a few minutes ago. I have been watching this on my roommates TV, and I can not wait to get this on my tv and surround sound.

This series is absolutely perfect. I can't wait until the next episode.

[Ricerking13]

I thought 8 was very good for having so little action in it.

I really figured with as much attention as they gave Basilone that he'd be one of the men talking at the beginning, figured he'd make it back.

But then again I guess figuring ANYBODY was going to make it back from Iwo Jima was a silly bout on my part.

Bummer to hear they are NOT showing Tarawa...

[Karlen]

I still have yet to see episode 8, I may try and get it in tonight...

Btw, you guys like my sig? :lolg:

[Ricerking13]

I still have yet to see episode 8, I may try and get it in tonight...

Btw, you guys like my sig? :lolg:

Fucking love it!

[freekwonder]

Was a pretty good episode. Especially the last 15 minutes. I'm a little disappointed that they didn't have John's other brother in it at all. His brother that joined the corps also, they had a conversation before Iwo Jima, he was telling John to get assigned to a new unit, but John wanted to stay with the 5th. I would have loved to see the episode starting at them in the boat leaving the ship, then have him flash back to joining the 5th and getting married, then come back to him hitting the island. Still over all a great episode.

Sadly I knew John was going to die, I'm reading a book on him right now "I'm staying with my boys". Pretty good so far, I"m half way through it. They kind of bounce between him landing on Iwo, him growing up, his time in the Army. Still got half way to go.

Why is everybody so fixed on Tarawa though? other than being caught up and finally getting to the beach it has less casualties (thankfully) than Peleliu.

[Ricerking13]

I just think there was a LOT they could've done with the filming given the extraordinary circumstances surrounding tarawa... getting stuck 30-40yds out and having to swim in, would've been nuts!

[freekwonder]

Which don't get me wrong is a HUGE fucking thing, but other than the landing really fucking sucking the fighting its self wasn't as bad as other islands if I remember correctly. I"m just not sure they could have made an hour episode out of it, but they could have combined it with another island.

To be glad I'm glad they are not focusing on Iwo Jima. There are plenty of movies about Iwo Jima (Flags of our Fathers, and Letters from Iwo Jima are fucking awesome movies).

I need to figure out who my Uncle was with. He was either with 4th or 5th MarDiv. But he signed up in April '42 (right after Guadalcanal) so he must have been with 1st Marines before that.

[Ricerking13]

Nice, yeah it'd be awesome to know where he served!

[ctprelude]

Definitely awesome last 15 minutes of the last episode. I really hope this next one is all battle though!

[freekwonder]

Nice, yeah it'd be awesome to know where he served!

The only thing we do know is he was at Iwo Jima, my dad passed on a few stories that he was told by my uncle. He said they would bury their c rations in the sand to warm them up. That's why I know he had to be with the 4th or 5th at some point since he told me dad he was 2nd wave. But if he joined in '42 he probably started out with 1st mardiv

I'm hoping the next episode is all action, it is suppose to be Okinawa, sadly lots of hard fighting and casualties at Okinawa.

[Immaculate]

I just think there was a LOT they could've done with the filming given the extraordinary circumstances surrounding tarawa... getting stuck 30-40yds out and having to swim in, would've been nuts!
30-40 yards? Try 500 yards. Swam for it, and held the beach through the night pinned down by machine gunners along a long rock wall until they could get reinforcements on the beach the next morning. Why would you not show that? Seriously hard fucking men.

[Immaculate]

Which don't get me wrong is a HUGE fucking thing, but other than the landing really fucking sucking the fighting its self wasn't as bad as other islands if I remember correctly. I"m just not sure they could have made an hour episode out of it, but they could have combined it with another island.

To be glad I'm glad they are not focusing on Iwo Jima. There are plenty of movies about Iwo Jima (Flags of our Fathers, and Letters from Iwo Jima are fucking awesome movies).

I need to figure out who my Uncle was with. He was either with 4th or 5th MarDiv. But he signed up in April '42 (right after Guadalcanal) so he must have been with 1st Marines before that.


Casualties and losses U.S Marine Corps:
1,000 killed[1] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Tarawa#cite_note-Wright_p93-0)
2,296 wounded[1] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Tarawa#cite_note-Wright_p93-0)
U.S Navy:
687 killed[1] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Tarawa#cite_note-Wright_p93-0) All but 146 of 5,000 killed[2] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Tarawa#cite_note-Wright_p94-1)
17 Japanese and 129 Koreans captured
I'm not sure how that stacks up to some of the other major battles in the pacific, but for only the second offensive by the marines in the Pacific it wasn't an easy fight.

[freekwonder]

30-40 yards? Try 500 yards. Swam for it, and held the beach through the night pinned down by machine gunners along a long rock wall until they could get reinforcements on the beach the next morning. Why would you not show that? Seriously hard fucking men.

Definitely bad ass men all of them. but as a whole, they probably couldn't think of a way to make a complete episode about it and tie it in with the rest, and they did make it off the beach the first day, they were halfway across the small ass island by nightfall.

I think the biggest reason also is the the books the show are based off the main characters were part of 1st Mar Div and 5th Mar div, where it was 2nd MarDiv that was at Tarawa.

[freekwonder]

Casualties and losses U.S Marine Corps:
1,000 killed[1] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Tarawa#cite_note-Wright_p93-0)
2,296 wounded[1] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Tarawa#cite_note-Wright_p93-0)
U.S Navy:
687 killed[1] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Tarawa#cite_note-Wright_p93-0) All but 146 of 5,000 killed[2] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Tarawa#cite_note-Wright_p94-1)
17 Japanese and 129 Koreans captured
I'm not sure how that stacks up to some of the other major battles in the pacific, but for only the second offensive by the marines in the Pacific it wasn't an easy fight.

Yes sadly there was a good number of casualties on Tarawa, here how it stacks up against some of the other islands.

Guadacanal
7,100 killed
4 captured
29 ships lost
615 aircraft lost

Saipan
2,949 killed
10,364 wounde

Peleliu
1st Marine Division:
1,252 killed, 5,274 wounded
81st Infantry Division:
542 killed, 2,736 wounded
Total: 1,794 killed, 8,010 wounded

Iwo Jima
6,821 dead[2]
19,217 wounded

Okinawa (more than the normandy landings)
12,513 killed
38,916 wounded,
33,096 non-combat losses

Not trying to discredit Tarawa. Any Marine knows about the 500 yard swim, but I think mainly it didn't fit with the story. I still LOVE the series so far, but there are somethings I would have done differently.

[Immaculate]

Yes sadly there was a good number of casualties on Tarawa, here how it stacks up against some of the other islands.

Guadacanal
7,100 killed
4 captured
29 ships lost
615 aircraft lost

Saipan
2,949 killed
10,364 wounde

Peleliu
1st Marine Division:
1,252 killed, 5,274 wounded
81st Infantry Division:
542 killed, 2,736 wounded
Total: 1,794 killed, 8,010 wounded

Iwo Jima
6,821 dead[2]
19,217 wounded

Okinawa (more than the normandy landings)
12,513 killed
38,916 wounded,
33,096 non-combat losses

Not trying to discredit Tarawa. Any Marine knows about the 500 yard swim, but I think mainly it didn't fit with the story. I still LOVE the series so far, but there are somethings I would have done differently.

That's a fucking war. :nonono:

[freekwonder]

So it's over now......What did everybody think of the series?

[Ricerking13]

So it's over now......What did everybody think of the series?

I thoroughly enjoyed it... it was a beautiful movie from an audio/video perspective. The finale was a very good wrap up, I think perfect in fact.

HOWEVER... IMO it does not compare to Band of Brothers.

Even halfway through BOB I felt like I KNEW at least 6-7 major characters... you could attach to them... you understood what was going on with their thoughts.

This one between the darkness, the jumping around between islands/stories/leave... I found it very tough to get attached.

I'll buy this because it was VERY good... however at least in my opinion, it was not even in the same league as BOB.

[Karlen]

I agree with ricer. Great series, I loved every bit of it.
But the battle scenes just don't compare to BOB.

[freekwonder]

I do agree, I will definitely buy it when it comes out and I loved the series. But I would have done a few things different personally. I think they should have showed more build up to Guadalcanal and build the characters better. They jumped right in.

I think it was good, but also the problem that they focused on characters from two different units. I know they jumped a little with the narrator in BOB, but they were still in the same company so they still interacted with the same people.

Karlen what do you mean the battle scenes just don't compare to BOB?

[Karlen]

I was perusing the HBO site, and found all sorts of The Pacific stuff up for sale, including the DVD set and Blu Ray set.

Here's for the DVD:
http://store.hbo.com/detail.php?p=256023&v=hbo_shows_the-pacific

And here's the show's store page...they have books, shirts, soundtracks and all sorts of cool stuff that goes along with the show. I'll probably be spending too much on this page..lol
http://store.hbo.com/?v=hbo_shows_the-pacific

[Nguyen]

Bumping because Best Buy has the Blu-Ray tin set on sale this week for 39.99 if anyone was interesting in purchasing.

[freekwonder]

FUCK, I don't have a blue ray player yet.

But after reading some of the books about the characters, I'm still happy with the series as a whole, but would have done a few things different. They should have just left it with Leckie, and Sledge and left out John Basilone. They could have done so much more with the series as a whole, especially the build up to the islands if they didn't have the whole episode about him getting married and going to Iwo, and the whole episode in Australia.

The way the pacific worked there wasn't a way to follow one company through so many battles, Battalions got wasted on islands, people were moved around a lot. They could have started it in New River when 1st Mar Div was first created and all the training they did doing beach landings,

[Karlen]

I can see leaving out Basilone, but not Australia. That was a great episode.

I asked for it on blu ray...we'll see if I get it. :D

[freekwonder]

I can see leaving out Basilone, but not Australia. That was a great episode.

I asked for it on blu ray...we'll see if I get it. :D

It was and it wasn't, a lot happened to them down there especially Leckie, but not how the show portrayed it. Especially the interactions between Leckie and Lt. Ivy

[Karlen]

Oh, the battle scenes not comparing, I missed your response...The first 3 episodes just dont seem realistic to me. The noises seem odd.