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Scooby24
2010-12-29, 11:17 PM
After 11 longs weeks of waiting for the order, my STI came in today and I'm extremely pleased. I had forgotten what a joy these cars are to drive and own. I only snapped what few pictures I had the patience to take before I had to get in and drive it around. I put about 50 miles on the ODO tonight breaking in the engine all around town. quick 2-4k rpm pulls and then engine braking. I pissed off more than a few people behind me.

http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j123/ga9213/STI_1.jpg

http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j123/ga9213/STI_2.jpg

http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j123/ga9213/STI_3.jpg

http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j123/ga9213/STI_4.jpg

New pictures:
http://kcsr.org/showpost.php?p=1178204&postcount=73

Stock Exhaust Clip:
http://kcsr.org/showpost.php?p=1181234&postcount=92

AP Stage 1 Dyno and Baseline 278hp 313tq:
http://kcsr.org/showpost.php?p=1208343&postcount=129

Front Lip Spoiler Added:
http://kcsr.org/showpost.php?p=1221492&postcount=218

First Autocross:
http://kcsr.org/showpost.php?p=1313243&postcount=228

Springs, sways, endlinks, steering rack bushings, SS brake lines, fluid installed:
http://kcsr.org/showpost.php?p=1358641&postcount=244

15mm Spacers Installed:
http://kcsr.org/showpost.php?p=1390752&postcount=248

Group N Engine/Transmission Mounts, Crossmember bushings, Shifter w/ bushing, Nameless Performance Exhaust w/ video
http://kcsr.org/showpost.php?p=1474227&postcount=278

Winter Wheels and tires acquired and Cobb SF Intake
http://kcsr.org/showpost.php?p=1554717&postcount=309

Mike V
2010-12-29, 11:25 PM
Sorry to hear your engine broke already. :mrgreen:

Congrats!

Gunnar
2010-12-29, 11:29 PM
Looks killer Greg. I need to come by and get a ride sometime soon.

Scooby24
2010-12-29, 11:31 PM
Sorry to hear your engine broke already. :mrgreen:

Congrats!

Damnit I hate it when I do that.

snm95ls
2010-12-29, 11:36 PM
Nice!

:thumbsup:

ssaarraa
2010-12-29, 11:39 PM
Looks great I love the white.

Mantooth
2010-12-29, 11:42 PM
Awesome car! How are the motor mounts in the '11s?

Enjoy! :cheers:

PS, No oem navigation? Well played. :)

jay45dee
2010-12-29, 11:44 PM
That thing is gorgeous! Congrats!

tim_ws6
2010-12-29, 11:44 PM
That actually looks pretty nice. Glad to see they went back to the sedan style.

Scooby24
2010-12-29, 11:46 PM
Awesome car! How are the motor mounts in the '11s?

Enjoy! :cheers:

I haven't heard of anyone having problems with the GR body STI's. It's pretty smooth, so they didn't firm them up much to fix any issues.

And yeah, I had a moral dilemma trying to justify the 1800 or so to have something my cell phone has....especially when the nav package REMOVES the media hub package so USB media players (ipods, iphones, androids) won't work unless you then add back the media package for another 300 and some change.

Dumb idea if you ask me.

Mantooth
2010-12-29, 11:58 PM
I haven't heard of anyone having problems with the GR body STI's. It's pretty smooth, so they didn't firm them up much to fix any issues.

And yeah, I had a moral dilemma trying to justify the 1800 or so to have something my cell phone has....especially when the nav package REMOVES the media hub package so USB media players (ipods, iphones, androids) won't work unless you then add back the media package for another 300 and some change.

Dumb idea if you ask me.Very smart move. If I EVER buy another new car, I will do all I can to get it without navigation. The navigation in my car is HORRIBLE. The only navigation that worked for me decently well was the G37S. Infiniti is WAY ahead many manufacturers in the electronics department, imo.

JDLM
2010-12-30, 12:14 AM
Looks good :cheers:

SUPRADRIVER
2010-12-30, 12:39 AM
Congrats! Looks great!

Woot
2010-12-30, 12:39 AM
I'm pissed that I haven't received a phone call. I see our friendship means nothing to you!

Scooby24
2010-12-30, 12:42 AM
I'm pissed that I haven't received a phone call. I see our friendship means nothing to you!

I was waiting to surprise you friday night. :clint:

Woot
2010-12-30, 12:45 AM
I was waiting to surprise you friday night. :clint:Sooooooo excited!

Kc_Boss_816
2010-12-30, 12:51 AM
Nice.

Dr.John
2010-12-30, 01:32 AM
Looks awesome! :worship:

Buford
2010-12-30, 01:40 AM
God damn that is sexy

Azrael
2010-12-30, 01:42 AM
AWESOME car man! I am jelly.

KUweatherman
2010-12-30, 02:06 AM
God, that thing is sex-eh! I can almost smell that new car smell through the screen. :D

Now, please watch out for d-bags behind you on 69!!!

TAILWAG
2010-12-30, 03:14 AM
Looks great on a sedan, specially on the white pearl!!

codyellis
2010-12-30, 05:57 AM
Looks good. When is the spoiler coming off?

freekwonder
2010-12-30, 06:04 AM
Dead sexy car, makes me wish the cube would get totaled out so I can get one.

so.DOPE
2010-12-30, 07:08 AM
Very nice and great color choice!

What are your plans for it?

...whispers wingless...winglessssssssss.

BryanW203
2010-12-30, 09:03 AM
Love it!

Great color too!

stanger05
2010-12-30, 09:04 AM
Looks great :cheers:

KCMAXX
2010-12-30, 09:13 AM
Looks great Greg.

Syri
2010-12-30, 09:17 AM
Looks great dude! Oh, and pre-congrats on being a dad! :thumbsup:

The Lox
2010-12-30, 09:26 AM
Sweet car!

BuddyLee
2010-12-30, 09:30 AM
Trade for a 96 Civic HX with 220k on the ODO?

kcshaner
2010-12-30, 09:32 AM
Holy shit dude, that thing is baddass! IMO the best looking Subaru I have seen. I love the white, and I had no idea there was a four door version (I don't know much about those cars). Congrats!

Syri
2010-12-30, 09:35 AM
Holy shit dude, that thing is baddass! IMO the best looking Subaru I have seen. I love the white, and I had no idea there was a four door version (I don't know much about those cars). Congrats!

The sedan version JUST came out. Lots better than the hatch IMO.

duttbart
2010-12-30, 09:37 AM
did i read 'being a dad'?!

its so super sexy greg, nice pick up.

kcshaner
2010-12-30, 09:37 AM
The sedan version JUST came out. Lots better than the hatch IMO.

I agree. It's a gorgeous car.

turbotuner20v
2010-12-30, 09:40 AM
did i read 'being a dad'?!

its so super sexy greg, nice pick up.

I think part of the deal was he got a new car if she got a baby :)

shonuff
2010-12-30, 09:42 AM
Looks killer!

JDLM
2010-12-30, 09:44 AM
I think part of the deal was he got a new car if she got a baby :)

:yesnod: or at least push up the time frame


So when do the mods begin? I recall reading you already bought some :mrgreen:

kcshaner
2010-12-30, 09:44 AM
I think part of the deal was he got a new car if she got a baby :)

If that's the case I am beyond impressed. All I heard when my wife was pregnant is "don't buy anymore car shit".

KUweatherman
2010-12-30, 09:46 AM
I think part of the deal was he got a new car if she got a baby :)
:wstupid:

I'd go for that deal too! :lol2:

Syri
2010-12-30, 09:52 AM
If that's the case I am beyond impressed. All I heard when my wife was pregnant is "don't buy anymore car shit".
:lolg:

Look how far it got her. Your CTS-V is bad ass!

b16gsr
2010-12-30, 09:54 AM
Beautiful. I have not been a fan of these car, but that is absolutely gorgeous.

KUweatherman
2010-12-30, 09:58 AM
If that's the case I am beyond impressed. All I heard when my wife was pregnant is "don't buy anymore car shit".

This car is driving me nuts I want one so bad. On top of it, the wife said I can have one if we start trying for a baby 6 months sooner than the plan that's already in place.

That evil woman knows how to get her way!
:mamoru2:

Squeaky192
2010-12-30, 10:32 AM
Trade for a 96 Civic HX with 220k on the ODO?

BUMP 4 my boi Buddy, hiz HX is CLEAN

kcshaner
2010-12-30, 10:42 AM
:lolg:

Look how far it got her. Your CTS-V is bad ass!

I was able to convince her to let me buy whatever 4 door family car I wanted :)

kcshaner
2010-12-30, 10:43 AM
:mamoru2:

Some very expensive decisions were made in the Scooby24 household that day :)

Both of which will/are well worth it :cheers:

Chance
2010-12-30, 11:12 AM
Car looks great man, hopefully it will make a trip down here for some toys before too long :mrgreen:

Joe
2010-12-30, 11:15 AM
Beautiful car!


Definitely more interested in the mod plan. =)

JohnnyBravo
2010-12-30, 11:42 AM
Greg, you know you're my boy. So don't take this the wrong way.

But I hate your face.













I really REALLY like that car.

Maybe I can get you to come by some evening and I can "test fit" a car seat in it. If it fits well, maybe I should convince my wife we need one. After all, it's much safer than just a regular FWD vehicle and I'll be able to get to those pediatrician's appointments much faster. You see where I'm going with this? :)

Congrats, man. I know you of all people, will really appreciate that car...

and being a father.

Scooby24
2010-12-30, 12:18 PM
Thanks for the compliments guys! Curtis I'm surprised you not only remember the fate of the old STI, but where it happened :lol2:

Chance, she's got 185 miles on it this morning after a dr. appt to topeka. Not a fun drive on I-70 constantly changing gears and speeds, but I'm about 1/5 of the way through the breakin....then she's coming to you guys for a dyno.

Mod plans right now are really simple....none! at least for now. There have been too many 1 off little issues popping up here and there with other people's 2011s and I want to get through at least a few thousand miles to make sure I'm not going to run into stupid issues that might get denied due to mods.

Mark, you let me know when buddy, I do need to test fit it at some point. Brandi wants to start trying in March now...so it's coming sooner or later.

The Lox
2010-12-30, 12:34 PM
:wstupid:

I'd go for that deal too! :lol2:

Yeah my wife said I could buy a vette once she had her baby..I've been blowing that back o ut for the last 3 weeks since we decided it was time to start...

Greg you might think about starting earlier that what you really want, or at least make sure she goes off the pill early, my wife nought a month might be enough but her doc said it sometimes takes 60 to 90 days to completely exit the system..

turbotuner20v
2010-12-30, 12:34 PM
Thanks for the compliments guys! Curtis I'm surprised you not only remember the fate of the old STI, but where it happened :lol2:

Chance, she's got 185 miles on it this morning after a dr. appt to topeka. Not a fun drive on I-70 constantly changing gears and speeds, but I'm about 1/5 of the way through the breakin....then she's coming to you guys for a dyno.

Mod plans right now are really simple....none! at least for now. There have been too many 1 off little issues popping up here and there with other people's 2011s and I want to get through at least a few thousand miles to make sure I'm not going to run into stupid issues that might get denied due to mods.

Mark, you let me know when buddy, I do need to test fit it at some point. Brandi wants to start trying in March now...so it's coming sooner or later.

aren't you also in the market for a 1000hp viper these days? I think a simple car swap could solve both your problems

:mrgreen:

Scooby24
2010-12-30, 12:37 PM
aren't you also in the market for a 1000hp viper these days? I think a simple car swap could solve both your problems

:mrgreen:

ha, I'd kill myself in Mark's car. My palms would be so sweaty I'd lose the steering wheel grip and die.

Scooby24
2010-12-30, 12:37 PM
Yeah my wife said I could buy a vette once she had her baby..I've been blowing that back o ut for the last 3 weeks since we decided it was time to start...

Greg you might think about starting earlier that what you really want, or at least make sure she goes off the pill early, my wife nought a month might be enough but her doc said it sometimes takes 60 to 90 days to completely exit the system..

She went off the pill about 10 months ago and she's been taking prenatal's for about 2 months now.

KUweatherman
2010-12-30, 12:53 PM
Curtis I'm surprised you not only remember the fate of the old STI, but where it happened :lol2:
I've got the memory of an elephant! :lol2:

btw, I still have the pics saved too. :leaving:

themadspoon
2010-12-30, 01:41 PM
Congrats! I really like the new STI looks.

kcshaner
2010-12-30, 01:43 PM
She went off the pill about 10 months ago and she's been taking prenatal's for about 2 months now.

Smart.....make sure she keeps taking those vitamins consistantly :thumbsup:

Scooby24
2010-12-30, 02:57 PM
Jesus I love my insurance agent and Travelers.

52.67 a month to cover the STI.

page2334
2010-12-30, 03:15 PM
Jesus I love my insurance agent and Travelers.

52.67 a month to cover the STI.

fuck my dirty record, i pay 60 on the E30 and 200 on the STeee a month:shock:

damn car looks great, need to bring it out to a kcsubaru meet soon:thumbsup:

TRsixxx
2010-12-30, 03:24 PM
Like

redhot916spd
2010-12-30, 04:55 PM
the car costs tens of thousands, the kid will cost hundreds of thousands good luck with it, it's a process of learning what you can control and what you can't !!!

Joe
2010-12-30, 05:17 PM
the car costs tens of thousands, the kid will cost hundreds of thousands good luck with it, it's a process of learning what you can control and what you can't !!!

I agree with this. I should of named my daughters Ferrari and Porsche. :mrgreen:

maynardDRIVESfast
2010-12-30, 05:22 PM
Great looking car. Wanna dig race?

cseaman
2010-12-30, 05:26 PM
Congrats man. That looks gorgeous, glad you're back in one.

comtrang
2010-12-30, 08:03 PM
Congratulations! I see one just like this on my daily commute, all the time. Beautiful car.

Mike V
2010-12-30, 08:24 PM
The more I look at this car, the more I like it. I truly thought it was going to look like crap based on how the regular sedan looks but Subaru did a really good job with this.

I've also felt that previous WRX/STi's look weird wingless but this one would look better without it and I like that.

psi_guy
2010-12-30, 10:25 PM
I'm not a big fan of subaru's, but glad you like your new car.

Woot
2010-12-30, 11:29 PM
Looks like I'll have more time alone with your wife.

MyLittlePwny
2010-12-30, 11:37 PM
Looks good man

Steven
2010-12-31, 12:33 AM
Awesome snag Greg! :cheers:

deploytosave
2010-12-31, 12:37 AM
gonna need new pants, i ruined these...

that thing is amazing!

BDoty
2010-12-31, 01:50 AM
Glad to see you back in an STi. :thumbsup:

And those sedans look great. Awesome color choice.

Scooby24
2010-12-31, 01:15 PM
http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j123/ga9213/STI_5.jpg

http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j123/ga9213/STI_6.jpg

http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j123/ga9213/STI_7.jpg

http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j123/ga9213/STI_8.jpg

http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j123/ga9213/STI_9.jpg

http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j123/ga9213/STI_10.jpg

http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j123/ga9213/STI_11.jpg

http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j123/ga9213/STI_12.jpg

b16gsr
2010-12-31, 04:38 PM
damn that thing is wide

KUweatherman
2010-12-31, 04:53 PM
I know you said no plans for mods, but that thing needs tint stat! :D Wanna trade cars for a day?

Swagger
2010-12-31, 05:09 PM
Looks like I'll have more time alone with your wife.

Pozz^

Looks great man, so choice.

JohnnyBravo
2010-12-31, 05:18 PM
Hate. Your. Face.

That is all.

duttbart
2010-12-31, 06:01 PM
super nice greg.

4drTurbo
2010-12-31, 06:10 PM
Super clean! Sure has a ton of badges on the rear from the factory.

Woot
2010-12-31, 06:11 PM
Looks crooked.

Scooby24
2010-12-31, 06:11 PM
Super Symmetrical AWD Subaru Impreza WRX STI, yo. They want to make sure you know what it is.

Scooby24
2010-12-31, 06:12 PM
Looks crooked.

You know I saw my balance at the dr's office during my last visit? 31,000 dollars. You better tell me that shit is straight. My nose is almost worth more than my car.

4drTurbo
2010-12-31, 09:14 PM
Super Symmetrical AWD Subaru Impreza WRX STI, yo. They want to make sure you know what it is.
:lol::thumbsup:

boostedefhatch
2010-12-31, 09:20 PM
looks good!

page2334
2010-12-31, 11:57 PM
:cheers: ugh i need to quit coming back to this thread before i do something silly

inis
2011-01-01, 02:39 AM
Super Symmetrical AWD Subaru Impreza WRX STI, yo. They want to make sure you know what it is.

So its not just symmetrical, its super symmetrical?

Needs a larger badge above the AWD that says super subaru awd

Woot
2011-01-01, 05:31 PM
I got to ride in it!

SeeingEyeBitch
2011-01-01, 08:56 PM
I was oogling over this for a minute when it was parked out back right after it came off the truck. :thumbsup:

freekwonder
2011-01-01, 09:04 PM
:cry: I want one.

KUweatherman
2011-01-02, 02:38 AM
I got a ride in it!
Fixed.

early93viper
2011-01-02, 07:29 PM
Nice! Love the white.

Scooby24
2011-01-02, 08:20 PM
Thanks guys! I love this new factory exhaust on the sedans.

R_M6jsd_q4c

Mike V
2011-01-03, 12:35 AM
So now that you've had it a few days, what are your driving impressions?

Scooby24
2011-01-03, 09:16 AM
So now that you've had it a few days, what are your driving impressions?

Very torque happy. I'd forgotten how nice it is to have that torque rush come on so early in the powerband. I haven't finished breaking it in yet so no pulls to redline, but it feels significantly more powerful than the G35, despite them both having virtually identical power outputs.

The steering is outstanding. It's so light, even when pushing the car, it's effortless. They've changed something with the way you sit in the car, you feel much lower than you did in the older cars.

The ride is very stiff. They increased spring rates substantially and it shows. Every little imperfection in the road, you're going to feel. I like that, however.

The radio sucks. I actually just had to do a writeup for how to get rid of a buzzing in the door panels with any bass. Now that I've fixed that buzzing, it's acceptable, but not great.

I like that they've added a few 'luxury' features and made them standard (on the sti at least). Bluetooth, heated seats, mirror and wipers, ipod connectivity. It may seem a given but you have to remember that in 04, these cars didn't even come with a radio.

I'm sure it's just because it's a new body style, but the car is attracting a lot of attention. On I-70, most people passing me were checking out the cars with their passengers breaking their neck getting a look. I missed that. :-)

seven64
2011-01-03, 11:50 PM
love it dude! congrats!!!

trevor
2011-01-05, 02:52 PM
Very happy for you Greg. I love the car man. How gorgeous is the SWP?

NONOS
2011-01-05, 02:59 PM
I like it nice car!!!:thumbsup:

Scooby24
2011-01-05, 03:04 PM
Very happy for you Greg. I love the car man. How gorgeous is the SWP?

I absolutely love it in the sunlight.

KUweatherman
2011-01-05, 03:20 PM
I'm sure it's just because it's a new body style, but the car is attracting a lot of attention. On I-70, most people passing me were checking out the cars with their passengers breaking their neck getting a look. I missed that. :-)
Attention Whore. *cough* :D

Why don't people check out my Si?! Oh, I know. Because it looks close to the other five Civics sitting at the light with me. :lol2:

carlos64030
2011-01-05, 05:41 PM
Nice car!

Username:*
2011-01-05, 06:27 PM
Jelly. :(

Scooby24
2011-01-05, 06:32 PM
To Lip, or not to lip, that is the question.

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d47/gunnis_2003/lip2.jpg

http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j123/ga9213/STI_6.jpg

KUweatherman
2011-01-05, 06:34 PM
Thought you said no mods? :lolg:

Saying that, lip or die! Then tint!

Scooby24
2011-01-05, 06:36 PM
Thought you said no mods? :lolg:

Saying that, lip or die! Then tint!

I'm just not sold on the tint. I don't think it looks good on this color for some reason.

http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j123/ga9213/A8sSh.jpg

maynardDRIVESfast
2011-01-05, 06:43 PM
Definitely go with the lip. Any plans on messing with the ride height? Would look killer with a drop.

KUweatherman
2011-01-05, 06:45 PM
@Greg: tint does look a little weird. It looks better in the pic you have up now vs the first one you had up though. Is that 35%? Looks darker than our legal limit; that may make a difference.

Scooby24
2011-01-05, 06:46 PM
Definitely go with the lip. Any plans on messing with the ride height? Would look killer with a drop.

Considering RCE Yellow's which are stiffer and lower, but not too low. I'd like them to consider making a sedan specific set. Right now they just have spring rates designed for the hatches from 08-10.

Only problem is, my driveway kind of has a bit of a lip to it which is damn rough getting past now....and there's no way I'd be getting into my buddy's driveway. I have to angle it now, as is.

Here are the RCE yellows.

Meh...the wheels tuck. Would need spacers or something.

http://lh4.ggpht.com/_em-TjXv-bp0/TLiPIFvPhBI/AAAAAAAABBQ/SIqLRF0zw-k/s1024/DSC_2842.JPG

http://lh4.ggpht.com/_em-TjXv-bp0/TLiPMFdfEyI/AAAAAAAABBY/KHJu8xiSXjA/s1024/DSC_2844.JPG

Scooby24
2011-01-05, 06:48 PM
@Greg: tint does look a little weird. It looks better in the pic you have up now vs the first one you had up though. Is that 35%? Looks darker than our legal limit; that may make a difference.

Yeah it's 35% all around. The interiors of these cars, from the carpet to the roof is ALL black so it's going to look darker than it really is.

It's the same car btw in both pictures. The first one was just huge so I found another one of his and resized.

MyLittlePwny
2011-01-05, 06:49 PM
I don't think it needs either one of those things

Mantooth
2011-01-05, 07:40 PM
Considering RCE Yellow's which are stiffer and lower, but not too low. I'd like them to consider making a sedan specific set. Right now they just have spring rates designed for the hatches from 08-10.

Only problem is, my driveway kind of has a bit of a lip to it which is damn rough getting past now....and there's no way I'd be getting into my buddy's driveway. I have to angle it now, as is.

Here are the RCE yellows.

Meh...the wheels tuck. Would need spacers or something.

I think a set of wider wheels with a different offset would set it off.

:oopsie:

Orions96cobra
2011-01-05, 08:24 PM
Love the new ride. A co-worker of mine here in Dallas just bought one and we took it to lunch. Amazing car indeed!

maynardDRIVESfast
2011-01-05, 08:27 PM
I think a set of wider wheels with a different offset would set it off.

:oopsie:

I agree. A wide, deep offset wheel with a slight drop would look awesome.

Dave B
2011-01-06, 12:07 AM
Do the lip and just do a lighter tint. I agree, too dark of a tint on a white car doesn't look right. It looks much cleaner when it's slightly smoked. Do they even make a 40% tint? If so, that's what I'd go for.

Dave B
2011-01-06, 12:09 AM
I agree. A wide, deep offset wheel with a slight drop would look awesome.

Agreed and that would be my plan if I got one these cars. Those fender flare were made for fatter concave times. The OEM rims look good, but with the car's perceived width, the stock rims/tires do look a bit narrow.

Scooby24
2011-01-06, 12:25 AM
Dave, I know you're shaky on these based on the magazine numbers, but when you want to get serious about them, let me know. It drives soooooo much different than the G35. The g35 was an old man's car in comparison. The low end torque makes the car feel a lot faster and it's simply amazing how much grip it has in a turn, comparatively speaking.

I know I'm a subaru fanboy and all that, but if you liked the way the G35 drives, you'll simply be blown away by one of these.

Magazine numbers don't mean anything to me because when you get in the driver's seat and experience the way this thing moves and feels, everything else goes out the window.

Dave B
2011-01-06, 12:38 AM
Dave, I know you're shaky on these based on the magazine numbers, but when you want to get serious about them, let me know. It drives soooooo much different than the G35. The g35 was an old man's car in comparison. The low end torque makes the car feel a lot faster and it's simply amazing how much grip it has in a turn, comparatively speaking.

I know I'm a subaru fanboy and all that, but if you liked the way the G35 drives, you'll simply be blown away by one of these.

Magazine numbers don't mean anything to me because when you get in the driver's seat and experience the way this thing moves and feels, everything else goes out the window.

Oh I know. I plan on watching how things progress with your car and what you learn along the way. The STI is far from off my list.

I completely understand that your whole platform argument. I feel the same way about my G. It's a great platform, it just needs a bit of help. I also can't stand driving a car that looks stock. I have to make it my own and feel like I've had a part in making it better. My G rides and handles far from an old man's car :) Stock ones are pretty sedate, but mine has bigger, lighter, and wider rims; very sticky tires; swaybars; springs; shocks; aggressive alignment; some reduced weight; and a deeper gear set and LSD out of a 350Z 6MT plus a couple of bolt-on mods. With the gears, it's pretty dang torquey.....for a six. It weighs in around 3,270lbs with 3/4 tank of fuel or about 350lbs less than your prior 08 G35.

Scooby24
2011-01-06, 12:49 AM
Oh I know. I plan on watching how things progress with your car and what you learn along the way. The STI is far from off my list.

I completely understand that your whole platform argument. I feel the same way about my G. It's a great platform, it just needs a bit of help. I also can't stand driving a car that looks stock. I have to make it my own and feel like I've had a part in making it better. My G rides and handles from an old man's car :) Stock ones are pretty sedate, but mine has bigger, lighter, and wider rims; very sticky tires; swaybars; springs; shocks; aggressive alignment; some reduced weight; and a deeper gear set and LSD out of a 350Z 6MT plus a couple of bolt-on mods. With the gears, it's pretty dang torquey.....for a six. It weighs in around 3,270lbs with 3/4 tank of fuel or about 350lbs less than your prior 08 G35.

For Grins, I highly recommend you head out to Lee's Summit Subaru and test drive one if their STI's. They have 2 right now that came in on the same truck as mine.

snm95ls
2011-01-06, 01:00 AM
I don't think it needs either one of those things
.

Dave B
2011-01-06, 11:07 AM
For Grins, I highly recommend you head out to Lee's Summit Subaru and test drive one if their STI's. They have 2 right now that came in on the same truck as mine.

I'm pretty sure I'd end up getting pissed and want to get rid of my car within 5 minutes.

Scooby24
2011-01-06, 11:08 AM
I'm pretty sure I'd end up getting pissed and want to get rid of my car within 5 minutes.

Exactly :-)

cseaman
2011-01-06, 01:10 PM
Crazy, turns out my father just bought an '11 WRX Premium.

I'm mad at him for not getting an STi hahah. Oh well. He seems to really like it a ton more than the bugeye he drove in '02, and my WRX and STi.

Mike V
2011-01-06, 02:20 PM
How's the market on these? Are dealerships willing to sell near invoice? $36k MSRP (for the options that I would want) really isn't too bad for what you get on these. I see they rate it at 23 mpg highway. What have you been seeing so far? Thanks for the previous reply on your driving impressions. :thumbsup:

Scooby24
2011-01-06, 02:31 PM
How's the market on these? Are dealerships willing to sell near invoice? $36k MSRP (for the options that I would want) really isn't too bad for what you get on these. I see they rate it at 23 mpg highway. What have you been seeing so far? Thanks for the previous reply on your driving impressions. :thumbsup:

If you're a member of KCSUBARU, LSS will give it to you for invoice.

So far, doing a lot of break in style driving, which is not optimal for fuel economy, first tank was 22.8, second tank 20.8 mpg.

P-UNIT
2011-01-06, 05:20 PM
If you're a member of KCSUBARU, LSS will give it to you for invoice.

So far, doing a lot of break in style driving, which is not optimal for fuel economy, first tank was 22.8, second tank 20.8 mpg.

Good numbers for break in I would say! Any other impressions after driving for a short bit?

Scooby24
2011-01-06, 05:41 PM
Good numbers for break in I would say! Any other impressions after driving for a short bit?

I was there today and think I may have fallen in love with the blue limited on the show room floor. I may have to pull the trigger on one sooner than I had planned!

I think I listed some impressions a page or two back. I'm only at 600 miles so I cannot really romp on it too much yet, but I have noticed that the stock tune is not very smooth. It seems pretty jerky in the 2-4.5 or 5k range I've run it through. Huge power then drop then power back again, almost like it's having trouble keeping peak boost where it should be.

I don't have my accessport installed but I've been looking at the stock map and it's pretty terribad.

At 100% throttle, the factory ECU between 3600 and 5200 this is what the boost targets are:

14.5 @ 3600
14.1 @ 4000
14.7 @ 4400
13.7 @ 4800
14.5 @ 5200

Up and down, up and down, up and down. WTF?!

No wonder their stock graph looks like this.

http://accessecu.com/dyno/graph.php?gb=0&hp=1&torque=1&rpm=1&sl=1&sln=1&runid1=1086&rgb1=000000255

NachO_SRT
2011-01-06, 05:55 PM
I think I listed some impressions a page or two back. I'm only at 600 miles so I cannot really romp on it too much yet, but I have noticed that the stock tune is not very smooth. It seems pretty jerky in the 2-4.5 or 5k range I've run it through. Huge power then drop then power back again, almost like it's having trouble keeping peak boost where it should be.

I don't have my accessport installed but I've been looking at the stock map and it's pretty terribad.

At 100% throttle, the factory ECU between 3600 and 5200 this is what the boost targets are:

14.5 @ 3600
14.1 @ 4000
14.7 @ 4400
13.7 @ 4800
14.5 @ 5200

Up and down, up and down, up and down. WTF?!

No wonder their stock graph looks like this.

http://accessecu.com/dyno/graph.php?gb=0&hp=1&torque=1&rpm=1&sl=1&sln=1&runid1=1086&rgb1=000000255


Thats not why, the reason you feel it is the lazy, and I mean 16AFR @ 14psi lazy, OLCL transition. It's not solved in the 2011's, it's only solved by using the 1.04+ version of the AP or Opensource with a tuner that knows whats up.

The transition is some 5 to 6 seconds under certin conditions, with the TPS @ 100% and RPM's over 3400 - the bounce is the damn thing reaching for 14.7 AFR. and failing. I'd be careful, it's really not safe.

NachO

Scooby24
2011-01-06, 06:05 PM
Thats not why, the reason you feel it is the lazy, and I mean 16AFR @ 14psi lazy, OLCL transition. It's not solved in the 2011's, it's only solved by using the 1.04+ version of the AP or Opensource with a tuner that knows whats up.

The transition is some 5 to 6 seconds under certin conditions, with the TPS @ 100% and RPM's over 3400 - the bounce is the damn thing reaching for 14.7 AFR. and failing. I'd be careful, it's really not safe.

NachO

In comparing boost targets in the map with the dyno reading...torque output and boost targets are pretty much spot on.

Tuning the CL > OL delay is easy. Comparing the stock map, you can set when you want the OL transition to take place.

On the stock map in 3rd gear, it doesn't transition until 4200-4300 rpms.

With the cobb OTS map, they have it from 2300-2400.

I could easily change that, but if boost is still jumping around, power output is going to do the same thing.

bk_civiceg
2011-01-06, 07:12 PM
Nice! Love the white pearl!

Scooby24
2011-01-17, 07:22 PM
I'll just leave this here. Baseline numbers and Stage 1 off the shelf map from today.

http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j123/ga9213/Baselinevsstg193.jpg

deploytosave
2011-01-17, 08:46 PM
wow, great torque numbers!

Gunnar
2011-01-17, 08:48 PM
I bet an extra 43 ft lbs doesn't feel too shabby. Looks a lot better.

Scooby24
2011-01-17, 08:51 PM
I bet an extra 43 ft lbs doesn't feel too shabby. Looks a lot better.

feels good man.

freekwonder
2011-01-17, 08:52 PM
Holy crap Daddy wants.

Kyle H
2011-01-17, 08:54 PM
Scooby, is that just a tune?!

page2334
2011-01-17, 09:00 PM
06 vs 11 :-)

Scooby24
2011-01-17, 09:00 PM
Scooby, is that just a tune?!

yeah, off the shelf map....still pretty conservative. Timing could be added and fuel pulled. It was showing 10.5:1....

Gunnar
2011-01-17, 09:08 PM
06 vs 11 :-)

no wonder your car is so fast if they pick up 43 ft lbs with a tune

JDLM
2011-01-17, 09:12 PM
damn man looks good :cheers:



makes me want to slap a tune on my car :lolg:

Scooby24
2011-01-17, 09:15 PM
damn man looks good :cheers:



makes me want to slap a tune on my car :lolg:

Cobb just came out with an AP for the 335's...something like 70hp and 100 ft lb gains. :shock:

JDLM
2011-01-17, 09:20 PM
Cobb just came out with an AP for the 335's...something like 70hp and 100 ft lb gains. :shock:

Yeah I read that actually :lolg: So want to play with a BMW?

Kyle H
2011-01-17, 09:29 PM
yeah, off the shelf map....still pretty conservative. Timing could be added and fuel pulled. It was showing 10.5:1....

Good lord. Im forwarding this to a friend who just bought a 2011 WRX wagon

sleepysvt98
2011-01-17, 11:28 PM
I've been looking into a Cobb AP for my MS6, looks like I'll be going that route.

JohnnyBravo
2011-01-17, 11:36 PM
Would drive.

KUweatherman
2011-01-17, 11:38 PM
Page 4, Greg. :ryan:

Numbers look good! :cheers: iJelly. :lol2:

page2334
2011-01-17, 11:41 PM
no wonder your car is so fast if they pick up 43 ft lbs with a tune

Still no tune, just 250 lbs lighter :-) maybe more

shonuff
2011-01-18, 09:52 AM
Impressive numbers Greg! :shock:

tommygun
2011-01-18, 10:56 AM
no 300hp, no care

Chance
2011-01-18, 12:31 PM
The car is very impressive with what it picked up on an off the shelf tune :thumbsup: Glad we could get it on the rollers yesterday.

Phate
2011-01-18, 12:42 PM
Very nice man, love this car.

Dave B
2011-01-18, 12:50 PM
Very impressive. I'm currently leaning towards a base WRX now. For an invoice price below $25K, it's hard to pass up such a deal.

Scooby24
2011-01-18, 01:08 PM
Very impressive. I'm currently leaning towards a base WRX now. For an invoice price below $25K, it's hard to pass up such a deal.

Yup, and they aren't making THAT much less than the STI's. Certainly not the 40 hp less as claimed by Subaru.

Check out what this guy is doing with his 09 WRX, which is the same engine/turbo.

300hp/333tq with Turbo back exhaust, FMIC, intake, and EBCS

http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2006522

TRsixxx
2011-01-18, 02:23 PM
In comparing boost targets in the map with the dyno reading...torque output and boost targets are pretty much spot on.

Tuning the CL > OL delay is easy. Comparing the stock map, you can set when you want the OL transition to take place.

On the stock map in 3rd gear, it doesn't transition until 4200-4300 rpms.

With the cobb OTS map, they have it from 2300-2400.

I could easily change that, but if boost is still jumping around, power output is going to do the same thing.


What I would do personally is go in AROUND the mainframe to adjust your ECU settings. If you tweak the MTS output to slightly over 18.9 PSL (Keep your M/R ratio at 9 or you will definitely fuck something up) Anyway, SLIGHTLY over 18.9 but not past 19. At 19 you'll start pingin' and dingin. What I did is simple. I re-mapped the QXL sensors to read the oil temp before deciphering the boost signal (So it doesn't use the ABS sensor) by doing this you're looking at at least a 10% lean condition, as you all know by now. What you'll want to do to get around this is reverse your sparkplug firing order by rotating your engine .99 degrees by simply shimming your left hand (passenger side) motormount with 2 post 1969 and pre 2002 quarters. Now guys, don't get me wrong... I know you know your shit but you're both making a HUGE mistake. First off, i know for a fact that you didn't retard your timing when you changed the settings on the startup MVR, when you fail to do that you're looking at huge problems down the road with your dry sump pumpers and your billings flanges. I know you read my write-up on welding these closed, but incase you need that again just PM me.


Hopefully this helps you out a little, Greg.

TRsixxx
2011-01-18, 02:30 PM
YOU DO NOT want to tune your OL rollover rate from a stock tune to re-map using kettlelink 9.9. ALL versions after 8.2 don't support your L56 mapping patterns.

I LEARNED THE HARD WAY.

snm95ls
2011-01-18, 02:32 PM
Did those big bad acronyms confuse you Chippers?

:razz:

Scooby24
2011-01-18, 02:39 PM
What I would do personally is go in AROUND the mainframe to adjust your ECU settings. If you tweak the MTS output to slightly over 18.9 PSL (Keep your M/R ratio at 9 or you will definitely fuck something up) Anyway, SLIGHTLY over 18.9 but not past 19. At 19 you'll start pingin' and dingin. What I did is simple. I re-mapped the QXL sensors to read the oil temp before deciphering the boost signal (So it doesn't use the ABS sensor) by doing this you're looking at at least a 10% lean condition, as you all know by now. What you'll want to do to get around this is reverse your sparkplug firing order by rotating your engine .99 degrees by simply shimming your left hand (passenger side) motormount with 2 post 1969 and pre 2002 quarters. Now guys, don't get me wrong... I know you know your shit but you're both making a HUGE mistake. First off, i know for a fact that you didn't retard your timing when you changed the settings on the startup MVR, when you fail to do that you're looking at huge problems down the road with your dry sump pumpers and your billings flanges. I know you read my write-up on welding these closed, but incase you need that again just PM me.


Hopefully this helps you out a little, Greg.

I feel like I need to do a reading on this.

Scooby24
2011-01-18, 03:27 PM
AFR's!

Baseline
http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j123/ga9213/AFRBaseline.jpg

91 Octane
http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j123/ga9213/AFRStage191.jpg

93 Octane
http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j123/ga9213/AFRStage193.jpg

These are still really conservative on the Fueling. There's a lot more power to be gained with a protune. I'm not sure why fuel is off as much as it is compared to what the OTS map is targeting...maybe I'll ask someone from Cobb to weigh in on that.

KUweatherman
2011-01-18, 03:29 PM
I wonder what increases I could see with a tune. Hmm.

Scooby24
2011-01-18, 03:33 PM
I wonder what increases I could see with a tune. Hmm.

Well, going off of what other protuners are getting from the OTS map, probably ~15-20 whp/tq more. I bet it would be pretty darn close to 300/330, with zero mods outside of the tune.

snm95ls
2011-01-18, 04:50 PM
Good lord.

There is no good reaosn to have A/F that rich unless there is something magical about Subarus that I don't comprehend.

I would call that overly conservative, personally.

I could see high 11s, but not mid 10s.

EDIT: Logworks FTW!

:smile:

Scooby24
2011-01-18, 04:53 PM
Good lord.

There is no good reaosn to have A/F that rich unless there is something magical about Subarus that I don't comprehend.

I would call that overly conservative, personally.

I could see high 11s, but not mid 10s.

Heat and detonation detroys these engines with a quickness. I wouldn't personally go over 11.5:1 without methanol, but that's because I'm not willing to risk longevity for a few extra ponies.

snm95ls
2011-01-18, 04:56 PM
Excess heat and detonation will kill any engine. I ASSume you mean these are more prone to self destruction.

Is the knock routine not worth a damn with the Suby computers?

FWIW, I am used to not having any sort of knock based ignition feedback. :lol:

EDIT: And pardon my ignorance on the subject, but do these engines not come with forged pistons, etc? Are head gaskets the main issue?

NachO_SRT
2011-01-18, 05:20 PM
Excess heat and detonation will kill any engine. I ASSume you mean these are more prone to self destruction.

Is the knock routine not worth a damn with the Suby computers?

FWIW, I am used to not having any sort of knock based ignition feedback. :lol:

EDIT: And pardon my ignorance on the subject, but do these engines not come with forged pistons, etc? Are head gaskets the main issue?

They run weird - Hot - and noisy.

Most tuners find the power sweet spot right at 11.5:1 -

I gained under the curve - over 60WHP with just a tune.

Add in TBE, Upgraded TMIC, UEL headers and up-pipe for another 40 whp and almost 50ft/lbs. It's at 300 WHP and 370FT/lbs after Chad Tuned it.

These cars are WAY under tuned.


Fun aint it Greg? I love mine more everyday/

NachO

Scooby24
2011-01-18, 05:25 PM
Excess heat and detonation will kill any engine. I ASSume you mean these are more prone to self destruction.

Is the knock routine not worth a damn with the Suby computers?

FWIW, I am used to not having any sort of knock based ignition feedback. :lol:

EDIT: And pardon my ignorance on the subject, but do these engines not come with forged pistons, etc? Are head gaskets the main issue?

Yes, these pistons are glass and ringlands will crack with detonation and it would appear that even some cars that have been protuned by reputable people/shops with likely very little detonation, can still let go. I'd guess they simply don't like heat. I never had a problem with my 05 STI with 304 whp and 358 tq (on a mustang dyno) but I also was running methanol and was conservative on fuel.

Throw in forged pistons and people seem to do just fine on the block up to 450 whp or so.

snm95ls
2011-01-18, 05:43 PM
Interesting.

I was just curious more than anything. I can totally understand not wanting to kill reliability for power.

I wonder if the O2 sensor location on those cars has something to do with the oddball lambda readings. I wonder whether most tuners, on these cars use the readings pre or post turbine. I have read in the past that a significant pressure differential across the sensor can lead to skewed readings.

It would be interesting to log both locations. Hmmm.

Greg, what location was used when your logs were taken?

Scooby24
2011-01-18, 05:48 PM
Interesting.

I was just curious more than anything. I can totally understand not wanting to kill reliability for power.

I wonder if the O2 sensor location on those cars has something to do with the oddball lambda readings. I wonder whether most tuners, on these cars use the readings pre or post turbine. I have read in the past that a significant pressure differential across the sensor can lead to skewed readings.

It would be interesting to log both locations. Hmmm.

Greg, what location was used when your logs were taken?

Closed loop look at the o2 sensor in the header, preturbine. Usually tuners will put their wideband o2's post turbine, sometimes right after on the head of the downpipe, other times further down.

For these, it was in the tailpipe, so if anything, I'd think it would read leaner...

according to Cobb, they think the difference might be the fuel and the ethanol content. The station I'm getting my 93 at might have a lower ethanol content than the fuel they used when creating the base map calibrations.

They said the AF trim should adjust after awhile of driving and should lean out to targeted 11.2. We'll see..

Buford
2011-01-18, 05:50 PM
Im really surprised these things don't come with 350-400 hp stock by now and some sort of forged interals.

snm95ls
2011-01-18, 05:57 PM
Closed loop look at the o2 sensor in the header, preturbine. Usually tuners will put their wideband o2's post turbine, sometimes right after on the head of the downpipe, other times further down.

For these, it was in the tailpipe, so if anything, I'd think it would read leaner...

according to Cobb, they think the difference might be the fuel and the ethanol content. The station I'm getting my 93 at might have a lower ethanol content than the fuel they used when creating the base map calibrations.

They said the AF trim should adjust after awhile of driving and should lean out to targeted 11.2. We'll see..

Ah, the ethanol content will definitely have an effect.

I really wish they would either standardize the ethanol content or just stop using it in gasoline altogether with the exception of high content fuels like E85, etc.

Scooby24
2011-01-18, 05:59 PM
Im really surprised these things don't come with 350-400 hp stock by now and some sort of forged interals.

Forged pistons are pretty noisy for a production car. Gotta make em loose for boost. Especially on cold mornings, you can usually hear quite a bit of piston slap, even with the tightest forged pistons available.

And I don't know of any other production 4 cylinder turbo's making that kind of power...at least not reliably and for a price point that is required to sell these cars.

snm95ls
2011-01-18, 06:04 PM
Well, that we get here in the states anyway...

Evo X comes to mind.

No idea what pricing is on either car though.

Scooby24
2011-01-18, 06:08 PM
Well, that we get here in the states anyway...

Evo X comes to mind.

No idea what pricing is on either car though.

It can make that power with mods, but mitsu isn't giving it that kinda power from the factory.

snm95ls
2011-01-18, 06:13 PM
Well, that we get here in the states anyway...

Evo X comes to mind.

No idea what pricing is on either car though.

It can make that power with mods, but mitsu isn't giving it that kinda power from the factory.

The FQ-360 and FQ-400 models that are/were sold in the UK sure do, but like I said, we don't get them here in the states, so I guess you could say it is a moot point.

Buford
2011-01-18, 06:30 PM
Forged pistons are pretty noisy for a production car. Gotta make em loose for boost. Especially on cold mornings, you can usually hear quite a bit of piston slap, even with the tightest forged pistons available.

And I don't know of any other production 4 cylinder turbo's making that kind of power...at least not reliably and for a price point that is required to sell these cars.

I just don't understand making 290hp in 2004 and making 290hp in 2011. You'd figure they technological advances since then and being able to get 50 more horsepower safetly.... especially for the price of these things. They have V6 mustangs making 300hp which may be a bad comparison.....

TRsixxx
2011-01-18, 06:41 PM
Forged pistons are pretty noisy for a production car. Gotta make em loose for boost. Especially on cold mornings, you can usually hear quite a bit of piston slap, even with the tightest forged pistons available.

And I don't know of any other production 4 cylinder turbo's making that kind of power...at least not reliably and for a price point that is required to sell these cars.


225 TT's have forged internals (180 TT's don't)

turbotuner20v
2011-01-18, 06:46 PM
I thought even the normal 1.8l motors had forged pistons, I'm pretty sure that was why I just used stock ones on my build.

MyLittlePwny
2011-01-18, 06:49 PM
I would think that going that fat with a car with so much ringland problems would be pretty much the opposite of optimal.

Scooby24
2011-01-18, 07:04 PM
I would think that going that fat with a car with so much ringland problems would be pretty much the opposite of optimal.

Not sure I follow, fat?

MyLittlePwny
2011-01-18, 07:34 PM
Not sure I follow, fat?
10.5:1 A/F is "fat", as opposed to lean.

Scooby24
2011-01-18, 08:01 PM
10.5:1 A/F is "fat", as opposed to lean.

I've always thought of broken ringlands as a product of one of 3 things, high cylinder pressures from too much timing, high cylinder pressures from detonation, or too wild of heat cycling that weakens the metal.

Running in the mid 10's isn't what I'd call super rich...it's conservative for sure, but not rich enough to result in any of the above scenarios.

I could be mistaken, however, on the root cause of a ringland failure since I've never had one.

Scooby24
2011-01-18, 08:10 PM
Running some logs today I've already caught some detonation. Low RPM, full throttle as boost threshold approaches, caught 2 knock events at 2300 and then again at 2600 rpms.

First pass at correcting resulted in only one knock event at 2700 and a higher load than I had modified. Looks like I forgot to smooth out the change and it ramped up timing too quickly. Smoothed that out and will give it a go again.

Only other knock event was a 2 event immediately after doing a 5th gear pull and letting off the throttle after reaching boost threshold. "shift knock" it looks like. That was a bitch to tune out on my 05.

MyLittlePwny
2011-01-18, 08:43 PM
I've always thought of broken ringlands as a product of one of 3 things, high cylinder pressures from too much timing, high cylinder pressures from detonation, or too wild of heat cycling that weakens the metal.

Running in the mid 10's isn't what I'd call super rich...it's conservative for sure, but not rich enough to result in any of the above scenarios.

I could be mistaken, however, on the root cause of a ringland failure since I've never had one.
It's not overly fat, but in what seems to be a pretty picky motor, I'd want to be safe. A rich condition can cause ringland failure due to fuel puddling on the top of the rings and detonating under the ring land, causing it to lift the ringland.

NachO_SRT
2011-01-19, 12:05 AM
It's not overly fat, but in what seems to be a pretty picky motor, I'd want to be safe. A rich condition can cause ringland failure due to fuel puddling on the top of the rings and detonating under the ring land, causing it to lift the ringland.


QFT - One of the combined suspected issues with the GR chassis EJ257's - Lazy OL/CL transition, and then an overly rich condition on top of already scorching pistons = Boom in the ringlands.

Just to add my years worth of info gathering. - I say F it, start saving for that built block now.


NachO

05SRT
2011-01-19, 08:05 AM
Ok a little off subject. But a guy at my work is claiming to have a 520 hp Hawkeye STi. I think thats 07? Any how. Its stock internals and stock head. With an FP Red. Is this even possible? I almost called him on it already but i don't really know a damn thing about STis.

NachO_SRT
2011-01-19, 08:26 AM
Ok a little off subject. But a guy at my work is claiming to have a 520 hp Hawkeye STi. I think thats 07? Any how. Its stock internals and stock head. With an FP Red. Is this even possible? I almost called him on it already but i don't really know a damn thing about STis.


It's not impossible - but it's really unlikely. I might buy 520 HP at the Crank. on Race gas, with meth injection and a shot of giggle gas.

I'm not sure I've seen a FPred doo 500AWHP on one of these, in built form.


Next to my SRT-4 this thing is HARD to make power past 400 or so.



NachO

05SRT
2011-01-19, 09:02 AM
I should add he says this is on 93 octane and he has never had a tune. Only because i did ask if he has an accessport or open source and he said no. Thats what he has on the agenda next. He has no meth injection and has never run race gas. I guess ill call him on it tomorrow when i go to work.

Scooby24
2011-01-19, 09:14 AM
I should add he says this is on 93 octane and he has never had a tune. Only because i did ask if he has an accessport or open source and he said no. Thats what he has on the agenda next. He has no meth injection and has never run race gas. I guess ill call him on it tomorrow when i go to work.

lol...he's lying his ass off. You can't have an FPRed without a tune. Impossible.

Scooby24
2011-01-19, 10:50 AM
Success! On my third attempt at correcting the OTS map, I got rid of all the knock I was seeing.

Cobb's OTS Map knock
https://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0Aoj3A1sllqOTdHg3VW4yTzBVdEJwTi1ERy1wdFB1V lE&hl=en&authkey=CNjc_7UB

My First attempt to fix it
https://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0Aoj3A1sllqOTdHZBR1pDUFdId1FhY3l2U085d0wtN 0E&hl=en&authkey=CJvioOMI

My Second attempt to fix it
https://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0Aoj3A1sllqOTdDBRejRUdFZkeW5OZ0h1N0ZSWFN1b FE&hl=en&authkey=CL3x9t4O

My Third attempt to fix it
https://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0Aoj3A1sllqOTdEhoUDctZFpmQ29HNXZHcjlUN2xsV EE&hl=en&authkey=CNvfoLQI
https://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0Aoj3A1sllqOTdDRHanNabFJ6ZVpWbkVWZVZINE5xO VE&hl=en&authkey=COSun6IF

Knock events highlighted red, yellow to show timing was slowly being given back while no active knock.

JohnnyBravo
2011-01-19, 11:11 AM
Success! On my third attempt at correcting the OTS map, I got rid of all the knock I was seeing.

Cobb's OTS Map knock
https://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0Aoj3A1sllqOTdHg3VW4yTzBVdEJwTi1ERy1wdFB1V lE&hl=en&authkey=CNjc_7UB

My First attempt to fix it
https://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0Aoj3A1sllqOTdHZBR1pDUFdId1FhY3l2U085d0wtN 0E&hl=en&authkey=CJvioOMI

My Second attempt to fix it
https://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0Aoj3A1sllqOTdDBRejRUdFZkeW5OZ0h1N0ZSWFN1b FE&hl=en&authkey=CL3x9t4O

My Third attempt to fix it
https://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0Aoj3A1sllqOTdEhoUDctZFpmQ29HNXZHcjlUN2xsV EE&hl=en&authkey=CNvfoLQI
https://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0Aoj3A1sllqOTdDRHanNabFJ6ZVpWbkVWZVZINE5xO VE&hl=en&authkey=COSun6IF

Knock events highlighted red, yellow to show timing was slowly being given back while no active knock.

I have almost no idea what I'm looking at, but congratulations. It's got to be a good feeling being able to do your own tuning and tweak off the shelf programs and get them perfect.

I wouldn't even begin to try to tune my Viper. I did really well with the simple fuel controllers in the Supra, but that was completely different. Kudos to you for knowing how to do all that stuff.

And, I really like that car. Have I mentioned that yet?

TRsixxx
2011-01-19, 11:18 AM
I thought even the normal 1.8l motors had forged pistons, I'm pretty sure that was why I just used stock ones on my build.


Maybe it was something else... maybe it was bigger rods, something is different, i thought it was the forged internals.

Scooby24
2011-01-19, 11:33 AM
I have almost no idea what I'm looking at, but congratulations. It's got to be a good feeling being able to do your own tuning and tweak off the shelf programs and get them perfect.

I wouldn't even begin to try to tune my Viper. I did really well with the simple fuel controllers in the Supra, but that was completely different. Kudos to you for knowing how to do all that stuff.

And, I really like that car. Have I mentioned that yet?

Cobb makes it fairly simple and thankfully, I had a good teacher on my 05 STI. (kcwrx, Todd)

http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j123/ga9213/AccessTUNERRace.jpg

What you do is go through the log, plot where the RPM and calculated load was that you got the knock, and then go into the table and adjust the timing as necessary. I started small and did 1-2 degrees and then smoothed out the surrounding columns so, after pulling some timing, it didn't just jump back right to where it was. The timing transitions are where you generally see knock. Too much of a jump does it.

The thing that took some time to figure out with Cobb, was understanding how total timing is determined.

It takes your Primary timing, then adds and advance value that is multiplied by a 0-1 multiplier and then subtracts knock feedback timing

In a mathematical calculation it would look like this:

Primary Timing + ((Dynamic Advance timing * Dynamic advance multipier) - knock feedback timing) = Total timing

Anywho, lemme know when you wanna go for a ride. :-)

Mantooth
2011-01-19, 11:38 AM
These cars are making KILLER torque now! I remember to make 380wtq in the '04-'07 Stis, you had to run methanol. Look forward to seeing a Cobb TBE, protune, and methanol setup on yours, Greg.:mrgreen:

NachO_SRT
2011-01-19, 01:06 PM
These cars are making KILLER torque now! I remember to make 380wtq in the '04-'07 Stis, you had to run methanol. Look forward to seeing a Cobb TBE, protune, and methanol setup on yours, Greg.:mrgreen:

In these parts of the USA, I'd forgo Meth and look at the advantages of just running E85.

Advances in 1000CC injectors from places like Injector Dynamics, and local shops supporting, tuning and working with them in tons of applications (Thanks Chad and MKC). Means E85 is IT around here.

Much easier to just fill, empty and refill one main tank.


NachO

cseaman
2011-01-19, 01:07 PM
These cars are making KILLER torque now! I remember to make 380wtq in the '04-'07 Stis, you had to run methanol. Look forward to seeing a Cobb TBE, protune, and methanol setup on yours, Greg.:mrgreen:

No way. I put either 371wtq or 375wtq down at one point at MKC when I was just tuned with a TBE, FMIC, SPT intake, and an EWG setup...literally nothing else, stock EBC, TIP, etc.

Mantooth
2011-01-19, 01:08 PM
In these parts of the USA, I'd forgo Meth and look at the advantages of just running E85.

Advances in 1000CC injectors from places like Injector Dynamics, and local shops supporting, tuning and working with them in tons of applications (Thanks Chad and MKC). Means E85 is IT around here.

Much easier to just fill, empty and refill one main tank.


NachOIsn't E85 more corrosive, though? I had nothing but good luck when it came to methanol injection. If E85 is tried and true around those parts, then I can't argue that.

Mantooth
2011-01-19, 01:14 PM
No way. I put either 371wtq or 375wtq down at one point at MKC when I was just tuned with a TBE, FMIC, SPT intake, and an EWG setup...literally nothing else, stock EBC, TIP, etc.What did you put down stock? Same dyno?

Scooby24
2011-01-19, 01:16 PM
In these parts of the USA, I'd forgo Meth and look at the advantages of just running E85.

Advances in 1000CC injectors from places like Injector Dynamics, and local shops supporting, tuning and working with them in tons of applications (Thanks Chad and MKC). Means E85 is IT around here.

Much easier to just fill, empty and refill one main tank.


NachO

I respectfully disagree for several reasons.

First of which, if you DD the car, finding an E85 station isn't always easy and if you get low on gas, you don't want to have to switch maps just to make it home.

E85 is also awful on fuel consumption.

You also HAVE to switch out your fuel pump and injectors because you have to run so much more fuel.

Methanol is simple...You install a tank or tap into your windshield washer reservoir if you'd like, put in the pump, wire it up, put in boost switch and solenoid, tap for the nozzle and you're done. You can get more expensive kits that are more complicated, but I had zero problems with my cheap stage 1 coolingmist.

It makes the car detonation resistant to a very powerful degree...you can fill up with 87 octane if you wanted, and the methanol richens up your AFR so you can pull more fuel to lean it back out to where it should be (better fuel economy).

It runs cooler, cleaner (steam cleaning), more powerful, and safer.

Dave B
2011-01-19, 01:48 PM
Scoob, are you going to have keep adjusting your tune to compensate for the weather? Right now I'd think it would be easy to tune for knock because of the low temps, but what about when it's 90, humid, and pressure is low? Isn't this why Subaru tunes so conservatively? Just wondering.

Scooby24
2011-01-19, 02:42 PM
Scoob, are you going to have keep adjusting your tune to compensate for the weather? Right now I'd think it would be easy to tune for knock because of the low temps, but what about when it's 90, humid, and pressure is low? Isn't this why Subaru tunes so conservatively? Just wondering.

Shouldn't have to do too much adjusting. On a turbo car, low temps can be challenging as all that air puts you in much higher load column than you'd generally be at and might not have tuned for. You'll also have a tendency to boost spike much harder in colder temps.

There are factory maps for Intake Air Temperature MAF Calibrations in case you need to adjust it beyond what the computer is already doing...but this is already a pretty conservative tune. low RPM WOT knock isn't that bad, and two knock events is pretty minor.

We'll see if I need to adjust it when it gets warmer, but if the factory sensors are adjusting things properly, weather changes shouldn't have too much of an impact.

NachO_SRT
2011-01-19, 03:36 PM
I respectfully disagree for several reasons.

First of which, if you DD the car, finding an E85 station isn't always easy and if you get low on gas, you don't want to have to switch maps just to make it home.

E85 is also awful on fuel consumption.

You also HAVE to switch out your fuel pump and injectors because you have to run so much more fuel.

Methanol is simple...You install a tank or tap into your windshield washer reservoir if you'd like, put in the pump, wire it up, put in boost switch and solenoid, tap for the nozzle and you're done. You can get more expensive kits that are more complicated, but I had zero problems with my cheap stage 1 coolingmist.

It makes the car detonation resistant to a very powerful degree...you can fill up with 87 octane if you wanted, and the methanol richens up your AFR so you can pull more fuel to lean it back out to where it should be (better fuel economy).

It runs cooler, cleaner (steam cleaning), more powerful, and safer.

On a stock turbo car, all it takes is 1000Cc's and Fuel rails. Make sure you have good solid voltage to the stock fuel pump and it's all good.

I'd agree with you, except your tuning your car with Meth injection, what happens when it runs out while your underway? BOOMness usually follows. - at least with e85, it's safe, no more correosive then Gas and it's all in one place.

I've had no issues getting 26-29mpg in my SRT-4 on the way to and from HPT, on 1000CC's and a Big turbo. the general loss of MPG is directly related to the gain in power, makes you "want to" hit it more and thus drive it different. then you end up putting those MPG results against your old figures and it's skewed.

In my observation and almost 2 years of use, the mileage hit is in the 15% less range given a proper tune and driving.

Cost: E85 is easily 25% cheaper then Meth injection, and as much as 10 times less then some race fuels.

To each his own, but, I've used both, and imho E85 > Meth injection

NachO

MyLittlePwny
2011-01-19, 03:56 PM
A local guy with a mid 9 second v8 car gets 20+mpg around town on e85 :dunno:

Scooby24
2011-01-21, 03:44 PM
Ordered the front lip spoiler:bling:

tommygun
2011-01-21, 03:49 PM
order some fuzzy dice

Scooby24
2011-01-21, 03:57 PM
order some fuzzy dice

Find me some that has STI plastered all over it and you betcha. I need more STI badges.

Lip Spoiler
http://www.rallysportdirect.com/catalog_photos/products/sti/sti_st96020zr180_3_lg.jpg

Grill
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4092/5196839626_50d6bd88cf.jpg

Trunk
http://www.youngsaye.net/Beyond/2011/subytails_02.jpg

Fenders
http://www.caranddriver.com/var/ezwebin_site/storage/images/reviews/hot_lists/car_shopping/latest_news_reviews/toyota_subaru_rwd_sports_cars_for_2011_with_boxer_ engines_car_news/toyota_subaru_rwd_sports_cars_for_2011_with_boxer_ engines/2008_subaru_impreza_wrx_sti_75/1317591-1-eng-US/2008_subaru_impreza_wrx_sti_75_cd_gallery.jpg

Wheels
Calipers
(see above)

Seats
http://0.tqn.com/d/cars/1/0/N/F/2/gj_11sti_seat.jpg

Shifter Console
Gauges
Steering wheel
(see above)

Door Sills
(no picture)



But for some reason they felt putting STI on the intercooler was too much?

BAH! Needs moar!

deploytosave
2011-01-21, 05:03 PM
honda owners get crap for putting civic everywhere, STI owners get props...

yes, im only saying this to express my overwhelming jealousy of your car

Buford
2011-01-21, 05:08 PM
I would do E85 over meth

Buford
2011-01-21, 05:16 PM
I would do E85 over meth

Scooby24
2011-01-21, 05:26 PM
Meth would be my plan....not gonna touch e85 because I simply don't want to be limited to where I can fill up.

Cooling mist makes a nice, nice trunk mount setup now. 2.7 gallon tank with pump tucked in, then a 52mm CMGS progressive controller that would mount cleanly in a front gauges bezel.

http://www.coolingmist.com/products/images/VC2FSCOMP1image7.jpg

http://www.coolingmist.com/products/images/VC2FSCOMP1image6.jpg

http://www.coolingmist.com/products/images/cmgsimage3.jpg

http://lh6.ggpht.com/_Xuvift0ZEBw/TRqX1cpiT3I/AAAAAAAAD1g/fELO8kYcD1U/s640/Product%20Pic.JPG

http://lh6.ggpht.com/_Xuvift0ZEBw/TB9NHwH3eYI/AAAAAAAAC6U/dJfoivNaMro/s800/IMAG0071.jpg

But that's way down the road.

I'm a safety first kinda guy. I don't tune for the ragged edge...never cared to. I want my engine to run awhile, and 50/50 meth keeps the cylinder temps down and pistons happy.

Buford
2011-01-21, 05:57 PM
If you are in a pinch, I've heard you can run 87-91 in there, just put around until you find E-85.

Scooby24
2011-01-21, 06:09 PM
If you are in a pinch, I've heard you can run 87-91 in there, just put around until you find E-85.

I wouldn't want to put myself in a pinch. There's a heavy investment into e85. Injectors, probably a fuel pump, the time it takes to install both, a pump safe tune for those injectors, an e85 tume which I'd have to have someone else do (money, time) or buy a wideband and do a bunch of reading (money, time), and even on e85 tunes, people are blowing their ringlands. Not worth the time/money/risk for me.

Mantooth
2011-01-21, 06:29 PM
What kind of car do you have again? :lol:

The V-limited lip will look great! Also, I had a Coolingmist kit with the veri-controller and loved it. The new monitoring gauge looks killer.

MyLittlePwny
2011-01-21, 09:05 PM
IMO the Mr. Freeze kit is the only way to go if you are running a methanol kit. None of that controller bullshit to mess with.

page2334
2011-01-21, 09:18 PM
I wouldn't want to put myself in a pinch. There's a heavy investment into e85. Injectors, probably a fuel pump, the time it takes to install both, a pump safe tune for those injectors, an e85 tume which I'd have to have someone else do (money, time) or buy a wideband and do a bunch of reading (money, time), and even on e85 tunes, people are blowing their ringlands. Not worth the time/money/risk for me.

I'M with you, E85 and DD don't go well, with the small tank you might get 200-220 miles per fill up and the limited number of gas stations, smart move is staying 93 gas.

Scooby24
2011-01-21, 10:59 PM
What kind of car do you have again? :lol:

The V-limited lip will look great! Also, I had a Coolingmist kit with the veri-controller and loved it. The new monitoring gauge looks killer.

It's a full controller as well as a gauge. It's some sick shit. You tell it when to start spraying based on boost by default. You can change it to MAF voltage too if you want to get more accurate.

You have a min and max flow rate that's all adjustable so it'll start with a small flow at lower boost and increase it to your specified max.

It has an option for flow sensor and will fault the system if it tries to start flow and doesn't see anything. You can tap it into the computer to send a signal to reduce timing in the event it fails if you want to do more than just rely on visual queues.

Pretty sweet setup for such a small package.

Buford
2011-01-21, 11:01 PM
How often do the meth systems fail? That would be my #1 concern under boost.

Mantooth
2011-01-21, 11:01 PM
It's a full controller as well as a gauge. It's some sick shit. You tell it when to start spraying based on boost by default. You can change it to MAF voltage too if you want to get more accurate.

You have a min and max flow rate that's all adjustable so it'll start with a small flow at lower boost and increase it to your specified max.

It has an option for flow sensor and will fault the system if it tries to start flow and doesn't see anything. You can tap it into the computer to send a signal to reduce timing in the event it fails if you want to do more than just rely on visual queues.

Pretty sweet setup for such a small package.Yes sir, it is. Just like mine, sans the gauge. I just had a green LED in the center of the dash. Never noticed it until you were spraying and it lit up. Some pretty cool shit.

I ran meth 24/7 in my STI and never had one issue, for what it's worth.

tommygun
2011-01-21, 11:04 PM
meth systems fail all the time.

Scooby24
2011-01-21, 11:08 PM
How often do the meth systems fail? That would be my #1 concern under boost.

Never saw mine fail in the 15k miles or so I had it installed. I was also using windshield washer fluid which wasn't a good idea because the dye was crusting up the nozzle. I cleaned it off once but it never stopped flowing.

But, the idea behind a 50/50 setup for myself is safety, not power. As such, I wouldn't up the timing much or lean out the car more than was needed to bring back the AFR.

If it failed, AFR's would jump a little, but probably not to a catastrophic level.

Mantooth
2011-01-21, 11:28 PM
Never saw mine fail in the 15k miles or so I had it installed. I was also using windshield washer fluid which wasn't a good idea because the dye was crusting up the nozzle. I cleaned it off once but it never stopped flowing.

But, the idea behind a 50/50 setup for myself is safety, not power. As such, I wouldn't up the timing much or lean out the car more than was needed to bring back the AFR.

If it failed, AFR's would jump a little, but probably not to a catastrophic level.What I did with mine, and I gained 30wtq on a VERY conservative meth tune.

Scooby24
2011-01-25, 11:01 PM
Front lip spoiler acquired and installed!

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5094/5388846277_075a2906c1_b.jpg

JDLM
2011-01-25, 11:04 PM
Front lip spoiler acquired and installed!

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5094/5388846277_075a2906c1.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/58781975@N07/5388846277/)
STI V Limited Lip Spoiler (http://www.flickr.com/photos/58781975@N07/5388846277/) by fnkimnki24 (http://www.flickr.com/people/58781975@N07/), on Flickr



Nice :cheers:

snm95ls
2011-01-25, 11:16 PM
Looks fantastic sir.

supersayianjim
2011-01-25, 11:20 PM
looks really yummi..

Mike V
2011-01-25, 11:29 PM
Looks great!

Scooby24
2011-01-28, 12:35 PM
I called up SOA customer service to ask about the survey on the purchase I hadn't yet received and in discussing that, I bought up an OLI (owner loyalty incentive) I had heard about from Nacho. They agreed to it immediately after hearing this is my 6th subaru so I've got a 500 dollar check coming my way.

Now I just need to figure out how I want to distribute that.

RCE Yellows springs?
10mm Spacers?
Sway bars?
Powder coat wheels gold?
Shifter bushings?
Steering rack bushings?
Group N motor/tranny mounts?
Save up for Invidia exhaust?

I love free money :-)

page2334
2011-01-28, 12:43 PM
I called up SOA customer service to ask about the survey on the purchase I hadn't yet received and in discussing that, I bought up an OLI (owner loyalty incentive) I had heard about from Nacho. They agreed to it immediately after hearing this is my 6th subaru so I've got a 500 dollar check coming my way.

Now I just need to figure out how I want to distribute that.

RCE Yellows springs?
10mm Spacers?
Sway bars?
Powder coat wheels gold?
Shifter bushings?
Steering rack bushings?
Group N motor/tranny mounts?
Save up for Invidia exhaust?

I love free money :-)


really 10mm spacers??
and no need for the group n motor mounts, get a solid made pitch mount and the motor will go no where:thumbsup:

Scooby24
2011-01-28, 12:53 PM
really 10mm spacers??
and no need for the group n motor mounts, get a solid made pitch mount and the motor will go no where:thumbsup:

Yes really on the spacers. These wheels look great, they just need 10mm cut from the offset. The 55mm offset will only be more obvious if the car moves a bit closer to the ground.

I'm not concerned about the motor taking off without me...I loved, simply loved how the group n mounts felt in my 06. Felt so much more connected to the road when there's zero delay in throttle response from engine/tranny movement.

page2334
2011-01-28, 01:14 PM
Yes really on the spacers. These wheels look great, they just need 10mm cut from the offset. The 55mm offset will only be more obvious if the car moves a bit closer to the ground.

I'm not concerned about the motor taking off without me...I loved, simply loved how the group n mounts felt in my 06. Felt so much more connected to the road when there's zero delay in throttle response from engine/tranny movement.

i thought subaru said the new 18's was the cause for the rock chips on the sides and spacing them out just make it worse

my pitch mount
http://www.importdynamics.com/catalog/images/ap-stopmount1a.jpg

no flex possible:thumbsup:

Scooby24
2011-01-28, 01:52 PM
i thought subaru said the new 18's was the cause for the rock chips on the sides and spacing them out just make it worse

my pitch mount
http://www.importdynamics.com/catalog/images/ap-stopmount1a.jpg

no flex possible:thumbsup:

It wouldn't do it any worse than aftermarket wheels what a lower offset would.

For 2011 they increase the amount of 3m protection on the rear doors. To date I don't have any chips.

Scooby24
2011-04-06, 08:34 PM
Participated in the first autocross of the season sunday.

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5179/5586952495_64fc4fe215_b.jpg

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5062/5586956415_dc9b4499b7_b.jpg

Compared to the 2005, this car's reworked suspension is pretty noticeable. The understeer is much better controlled, though still present. The Dunlop SP 600 tires are not very good. I'm not too pleased with their lack of grip. There was some awful steering feedback on one part of the course, coming up on an off camber sweeper to the slaloms, the steering wheel jerked back and forth like bump steer, but the pavement was pretty flat...so I don't know what it was doing. Brakes were good, but the feel was awful. I'd stomp on the pedal and the car would stop, but it felt like I was pushing on a wet sponge.

Putting in an order through MKC

Eibach 25mm Front 22mm Rear sway bars
http://www.suspensionconnection.com/images/master/eibach_anti_roll_sway_bar_front_rear.jpg
Kartboy Endlinks
http://turninconcepts.com/forums/08_rear_links/kb/front_page/image0003.jpg
Whiteline Steering Rack Bushing kit
http://store.scoobymods.com/images/KSR206_1.jpg
Whiteline Control Arm Brace
http://www.jscspeed.com/images/catalog/category3117_thumb_full.jpg
Stainless Steel Brake lines
http://admotorsports.net/images/goodridge.jpg
Amsoil series 600 DOT 4 Brake fluid
http://www.c66racing-synthetics.com/images/BF4.jpg

KUweatherman
2011-04-06, 08:41 PM
Those endlinks look nice. Too bad they don't make ones for my Si; I need new ones bad! My current ones creak worse than a 90 yr old man.

KCMAXX
2011-04-06, 08:45 PM
PM sent

Scooby24
2011-04-06, 08:46 PM
PM sent

Liar.

JDLM
2011-04-06, 08:47 PM
I <3 Whiteline's products

NachO_SRT
2011-04-06, 08:53 PM
I like ATE Superblue for day to day, I've used it at the track also and it's good. Not Motul. but good.

I've not tried the Amsoil so for sure let me know your feedback on that. It's also good to know your breaks feel like mine - a firm sponge. Kind of offsetting really...

NachO

page2334
2011-04-06, 08:59 PM
The Dunlop SP 600 tires didn't look like great tires, I still haven't found a tire that I love like my RE070's.

Hotwheelharmer
2011-04-06, 09:13 PM
I sent you a pm about the compliance of the whiteline bar as it pertains to Solo competition.

BDoty
2011-04-06, 09:16 PM
I sent you a pm about the compliance of the whiteline bar as it pertains to Solo competition.

Ruh roh. Busted.

Mike V
2011-04-06, 09:26 PM
Ruh roh. Busted.

:lol2: You beat me to it.

Scooby24
2011-04-06, 09:30 PM
Competition Smompetition

I just want the car to drive how I want. If that throws me in SM I'm okay with it....other than needing two magnetic "M"s now. :mad:

snm95ls
2011-04-06, 09:30 PM
I sent you a pm about the compliance of the whiteline bar as it pertains to Solo competition.

:lol:

A bit OT... Brian, I had run across your EF build blog from somewhere else, and didn't realize it was yours. Pretty cool.

:cheers:

Scooby24
2011-04-06, 09:57 PM
ugh, alright I don't even think I could be in SM now.

Subframe connectors are allowed, but each connector must be attached individually without any lateral components attaching the two longitudinal frame rails. Subframe connectors may be bolted or welded

It's connecting the two control arm points to each other. The more i think about it, thats probably going to be considered the frame rail.

I'd have to be in a modified class. I didn't really care about SM, but modified is like...kit cars. Maybe I'll nix the brace and get some RCE yellow springs.

Hotwheelharmer
2011-04-06, 11:25 PM
ugh, alright I don't even think I could be in SM now.



It's connecting the two control arm points to each other. The more i think about it, thats probably going to be considered the frame rail.

I'd have to be in a modified class. I didn't really care about SM, but modified is like...kit cars. Maybe I'll nix the brace and get some RCE yellow springs.

You would be compliant in Prepared category. X prepared and F prepared to be more specific.

Scooby24
2011-04-07, 03:48 PM
alright, order placed. I can't believe I haven't been going to MKC the whole time, their prices are outstanding.

Swaybars
Endlinks
RCE Yellow Springs
Steering Rack Bushings
Brake Fluid
Stainless Steel Lines

This should help remedy some of my complaints. Now when am I going to find the time to install it all? :-(

Phate
2011-04-07, 05:09 PM
Now when am I going to find the time to install it all? :-(

You can do it in my garage. Feel free to leave the car as long as you need to.

Scooby24
2011-05-10, 10:31 AM
Everything except the brake lines and fluid have been installed. Those are going on tomorrow night. The springs have a very subtle drop, but they were selected for the spring rates with the primary purpose of autocross in mind. They are healthy 330f/330r rates. The car handles much better now. I haven't found the new limits yet, but they have gone well beyond the stock suspension's.

Just a quick comparison of the ride height:

http://uploadsx.com/di-ALXY.jpg

http://uploadsx.com/di-6PKQ.jpg

Brick.
2011-05-10, 10:56 AM
The car looks awesome!

Username:*
2011-05-10, 12:16 PM
This is my favorite car on KCSR. Love it Greg! :)

SiCO
2011-05-10, 12:36 PM
so jelly.

Scooby24
2011-06-03, 10:53 AM
Installed some 15mm spacers front and rear to reduce the sunken look after springs. Not going for hellaflush. Oh, I also got the brake lines installed and fluid replaced with the amsoil. MUUUUCH better now.

Before:
http://uploadsx.com/di-O9KT.jpg

After:
http://uploadsx.com/di-VA1K.jpg

Before:
http://uploadsx.com/di-8OPZ.jpg

After:
http://uploadsx.com/di-WS0U.jpg

After:
http://uploadsx.com/di-XM6Z.jpg

After:
http://uploadsx.com/di-J0DT.jpg

duttbart
2011-06-03, 11:26 AM
diggin spacers....

cbryant1990
2011-06-03, 11:38 AM
Looks great!