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Trump is reportedly 'furious' that US stocks have tanked on coronavirus fears — and he's accusing the 'fake news' media of throwing fuel on the fire



Our President is such an absolute ego maniac that he is more concerned with how the stock market numbers reflect on his presidency than he is about a fucking pandemic that could kill millions. WHATS IT GOING TO TAKE TO MAKE YOU DIPSHIT TRUMP SUPPORTERS SEE WHAT YOU ARE DOING TO OUR COUNTRY??? IS OWNING THE LIBS WORTH THIS?

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PANDEMIC THAT COULD KILL MILLIONS!!!

Stop allowing yourself to be a pawn for the media. The flu has taken more lives in 2020 than this silly virus has by a mile. You’re that guy that goes to the market and buys two weeks of groceries when they forecast two inches of snow with 40 degree temps the following day.


Lol at blaming Trump for rightfully trying to calm down the nation.
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JTFC you’re clueless.

Never once have I alluded to being anything remotely serious about my prior post. It was in jest.
You go full retard too often to attempt to be sarcastic.
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You go full retard too often to attempt to be sarcastic.
Wow.

The “R” word?

Jesus dude, get a grip. It’s 2020z
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PANDEMIC THAT COULD KILL MILLIONS!!!

Stop allowing yourself to be a pawn for the media. The flu has taken more lives in 2020 than this silly virus has by a mile. You’re that guy that goes to the market and buys two weeks of groceries when they forecast two inches of snow with 40 degree temps the following day.


Lol at blaming Trump for rightfully trying to calm down the nation.
Nice parroting of a Trump talking point. Here let me try one.



Trump puts Pence in charge of US coronavirus response
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PANDEMIC THAT COULD KILL MILLIONS!!!

Stop allowing yourself to be a pawn for the media. The flu has taken more lives in 2020 than this silly virus has by a mile. You’re that guy that goes to the market and buys two weeks of groceries when they forecast two inches of snow with 40 degree temps the following day.

Lol at blaming Trump for rightfully trying to calm down the nation.
we have vaccines for the flu and have a good sense of how it mutates and how lethal it is.

coronavirus is a new virus that we're likely 12-18 months from a vaccine (per actual scientists standing next to the blithering village idiot saying that there are only 15 cases and about to be 0) with a lethality rate currently that would lead to over 100M deaths worldwide (vs the 291-646k/year for the regular flu)...

the fact that the President isn't moving a ton of rss inside the federal gov't to mobilize our response shows how little he gives a shit about you moronic supporters, he just wants the markets to be stable so he doesn't get beat like a rented mule in November. our collective health is the new Ukrainian military; the sacrificial lamb to his vanity and his personal interests. maybe it works out in the end for us but there are likely tens of thousands of American lives in the balance of keeping markets calm vs making sure people understand what's likely coming and making sure we have as good of a response as we can.

the fact that he is putting Pence in charge of the response shows how much he's not taking this seriously as his record on public health is atrocious.

I just hope Trump and the rest of the MAGA crowd combine with the anti-vaxxers to organize a trip to China or to Iran to prove to all of us libtards how wrong we really are.
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Wow.

The “R” word?

Jesus dude, get a grip. It’s 2020z
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we have vaccines for the flu and have a good sense of how it mutates and how lethal it is.

coronavirus is a new virus that we're likely 12-18 months from a vaccine (per actual scientists standing next to the blithering village idiot saying that there are only 15 cases and about to be 0) with a lethality rate currently that would lead to over 100M deaths worldwide (vs the 291-646k/year for the regular flu)...

the fact that the President isn't moving a ton of rss inside the federal gov't to mobilize our response shows how little he gives a shit about you moronic supporters, he just wants the markets to be stable so he doesn't get beat like a rented mule in November. our collective health is the new Ukrainian military; the sacrificial lamb to his vanity and his personal interests. maybe it works out in the end for us but there are likely tens of thousands of American lives in the balance of keeping markets calm vs making sure people understand what's likely coming and making sure we have as good of a response as we can.

the fact that he is putting Pence in charge of the response shows how much he's not taking this seriously as his record on public health is atrocious.

I just hope Trump and the rest of the MAGA crowd combine with the anti-vaxxers to organize a trip to China or to Iran to prove to all of us libtards how wrong we really are.



Just stop. You're trying too hard to discredit Trump and looking foolish in the process.


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we have vaccines for the flu and have a good sense of how it mutates and how lethal it is.

coronavirus is a new virus that we're likely 12-18 months from a vaccine (per actual scientists standing next to the blithering village idiot saying that there are only 15 cases and about to be 0) with a lethality rate currently that would lead to over 100M deaths worldwide (vs the 291-646k/year for the regular flu)...
The two main concerns with 2019-nCoV, this specific strain are:
1. The incubation period: You can be infected for up to two weeks before showing symptoms. We dont currently know how contagious it is during that period.

2. Immune response isnt well known: We know how established flu strains behave. Our bodies are also used to fighting them, so they behave predictably. The problem with novel viruses is our bodies may not react correctly. Failing to fight or actually making it worse. That was the case with H1N1. The immune response did as much damage as the virus itself, making it actually MORE dangerous to young, healthy people with strong immune systems. The first known exposure became the "Spanish Flu" that likely killed more than WW1.

The common strains are easy, just watch out for elderly and immunocompromised. But when you have a virus that is killing healthy people its considerably harder to have a strategy.
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LOL, Dr Drew. Most famous for killing everyone on Celebrity Rehab and misdiagnosing genital warts on the radio.

Dude is a fucking nutjob but not surprising its the first place fish would go since he got famous again making shit up about Hillarys health.
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LOL, Dr Drew. Most famous for killing everyone on Celebrity Rehab and misdiagnosing genital warts on the radio.

Dude is a fucking nutjob but not surprising its the first place fish would go since he got famous again making shit up about Hillarys health.

Lol...we get it’s you slept at a Holiday Inn last night and talk to doctors at work.


Dr. Stewart here for our knowledge drop when we have an actual doctor with a medical degree in the video above.

Idiot.
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given Dr Drew's history and the fact that he trained as an internist vs an infectious disease doctor? Dr Stewart likely has a better reputation and only a bit less training on the spread of infectious diseases...

how about we use non-social media and genital-based science?
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Outbreaks of novel virus infections among people are always of public health concern. The risk from these outbreaks depends on characteristics of the virus, including how well it spreads between people, the severity of resulting illness, and the medical or other measures available to control the impact of the virus (for example, vaccine or treatment medications). The fact that this disease has caused illness, including illness resulting in death, and sustained person-to-person spread is concerning. These factors meet two of the criteria of a pandemic. As community spread is detected in more and more countries, the world moves closer toward meeting the third criteria, worldwide spread of the new virus.

The potential public health threat posed by COVID-19 is high, both globally and to the United States.

But individual risk is dependent on exposure.

- For the general American public, who are unlikely to be exposed to this virus at this time, the immediate health risk from COVID-19 is considered low.
- Under current circumstances, certain people will have an increased risk of infection, for example healthcare workers caring for patients with COVID-19 and other close contacts of persons with COVID-19. CDC has developed guidance to help in the risk assessment and management of people with potential exposures to COVID-19.

However, it’s important to note that current global circumstances suggest it is likely that this virus will cause a pandemic. In that case, the risk assessment would be different.
but hey that guy that used to dabble in psychiatry without training and spots on your dick on the radio sight unseen is the one we should really be listening to....
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Go get your flu shot and wash your hands.
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Lol...we get it’s you slept at a Holiday Inn last night and talk to doctors at work.


Dr. Stewart here for our knowledge drop when we have an actual doctor with a medical degree in the video above.

Idiot.
What, you're going to bat for someone certified in California? I thought you all instinctively hated that entire state? Or is it because he was making shit up about Hillary that gives him legitimacy to you? Dude even ruined his TV career when it turned out he was noting more than a Welbutrin shill. Its funny they still put him on TV, he is about as legit as Dr Oz at this point.

Although his NON-MEDICAL point isnt far off. Of course the press is overreporting this, its the problem with 24 hour news, there isnt 24 hours worth of news. Not everything deserves a crawl:


Even the CDC, if you actually read what they have put out, is of a "trust, but verify" methodology. Right now the exposure risk is low, but its a good idea to take a few precautions. Primarily because there just isnt enough information to make accurate predictions of how this is all going to go. Odds are western medicine will be a brick wall.


As far as everything Ive posted, Ive posted links BTW. Its also information easily verified by going to the CDCs mulitple pages on the subject. As far as "talking to doctors at work" nah there dude in charge of line cooks, Im in ops, I have to be on committees and have to carry CPHIMS and CPHRM certs. No hospital system is ignoring this so its been part of my job lately. Additionally my circle of friends is about half either CDC employees or Emory AAI/virologists. Its shop talk at the bar.
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Go get your flu shot and wash your hands.
absolutely good advice but the media has a role to play in making sure that people take this seriously and raise their awareness to both protect themselves and hopefully force ignorant, self-serving politicians like Trump and Pence (and many others) to use the levers of gov't to produce a good plan and defend the country by making sure science wins out and we're as prepared as we can be. and right now, Trump is absolutely failing that test because he's worried about his re-election prospects (which rest on a strong stock market) more than he's worried about the tens of thousands of Americans that are more likely to die if the US gov't isn't mobilized and the predictions of actual infectious disease doctors are realized.

just like climate science, this shit is coming and it doesn't give a shit about the supposedly reassuring statements of a self-interested ignoramus like Trump or a religious zealot that puts his ideology over reality like Pence.


* there are obviously always going to be bad actors (knowing and unknowing) but the press has an important role in disseminating information just like Vox is doing here where they actually spoke to experts and are putting forward solid information for people so that they get a more realistic picture and can protect themselves: https://www.vox.com/2020/1/31/211131...avel-china-map
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Trump is absolutely failing that test because he's worried about his re-election prospects (which rest on a strong stock market) more than he's worried about the tens of thousands of Americans that are more likely to die if the US gov't isn't mobilized and the predictions of actual infectious disease doctors are realized.
QFT. Trump is terrified about the markets right now because he knows when people are losing money and the economy is shrinking, so do his re-election chances. That's why he'll lie to everyone, tell people everything is great, and ignore the problem. Because the second he acknowledges it, we have to address it.

And I hate to be the bearer of bad news for him, but even if we don't have widespread infections here, the damage is already massive.

People haven't quite grasped the consequences of this because we haven't fully realized them, yet. That will begin in a few weeks to months. China, like it or not, has a hand in manufacturing at least a part of almost everything. And their factories have been shuttered for weeks and could be shuttered for weeks or months more.

Apple can't get shipments of iPhones.
TV companies can't supply retailers with new sets.
Automakers can't complete assembly without parts.

The list can go on and on and on and is involved in almost every industry. All of it points to an economic turn down. We just haven't realized it because the supply shortage hasn't fully hit industry yet.

Whether we see a full scale outbreak in the states or not, Trump is terrified of 2019-nCov, as he should be.
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Jw's main concern is the same as Trump's, defend the orange image at all costs. I find it particularly hilarious that he scoffs at conspiracy theories yet our President and his supporters are the most paranoid conspiracy theorists of them all. EVERYTHING is a plot against Trump if it negatively effects his image or his presidency. They are so petty and self centered with such little capability for human empathy that they legitimately think that government institutions meant to protect us from these kinds of crisis's would use their power as a tool to try and take down Trump's presidency and that would be their main priority and not the safety of our 300 million citizens.

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After Dr. Nancy Messonnier, the director of the National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases, announced that the coronavirus' spread in the US was inevitable, Limbaugh and others began spreading a conspiracy that Messonnier is part of the "deep state" out to undermine the president because her brother is former deputy attorney general Rod Rosenstein.
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On Monday afternoon, Rush Limbaugh -- the recent recipient of the nation's highest civilian honor -- told his listeners that he had a message about "this coronavirus thing." The conservative host proceeded to argue, "It looks like the coronavirus is being weaponized as yet another element to bring down Donald Trump."

Limbaugh added, "I'm dead right on this. The coronavirus is the common cold, folks."

As dangerous as rhetoric like this is, the host kept this going on Tuesday, insisting that journalists want the virus outbreak to be deadly "so they could blame Trump for it." He compared it to hurricane coverage, which Limbaugh said is hyped in order to promote climate change and "the leftist agenda."

It was against this backdrop that a reporter asked Donald Trump yesterday about far-right conspiracy theories surrounding the coronavirus outbreak, including Limbaugh's assertion about efforts to "weaponize the virus" against him. The president replied:

"I agree with it. I agree.... I think they are -- and I'd like it to stop."
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Oh ok, you post a movie where’s someone uses the word.

It’s definitely acceptable for you to use it.

I’m sure it’s not the only reprehensible term you’d use and back it up with someone using it elsewhere.

Btw-

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Oh ok, you post a movie where’s someone uses the word.

It’s definitely acceptable for you to use it.

I’m sure it’s not the only reprehensible term you’d use and back it up with someone using it elsewhere.

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https://www.google.com/amp/s/finance...215843823.html
Ok sure, because its the same.

That is literally the first Ive heard from anyone stating this is more about Sanders, and I question the claim of the guy stating that this should be impacting emerging markets more. Right now this is about supply chain, its not even gotten to the hype portion of a sell off, its the realization that this is going to impact deliveries.

Hell its been over a week since Apple announced it was going to greatly impact them:
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/17/t...s-economy.html

And now travel is curtailing, and with shipments also down oil is down as well. Its almost as if closing factories, stores and people not traveling is negatively impacting trade based economies.

Edit: I also should note that the market capitalization is not the be-all end-all of our economy. Additionally, while Im impacted by this, and it makes for a good sound byte to talk about the markets being up or down its not usually germaine to the welfare of the average american:

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/more-...090000530.html
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BTW it seems the presidents news arm seems to think it might have something to do with the outbreak as well:
https://www.foxbusiness.com/markets/...-panic-worsens
https://www.foxbusiness.com/sports/c...porting-events
https://www.foxbusiness.com/technolo...el-conferences
https://www.foxbusiness.com/markets/...cks-feb27-2020
https://www.foxbusiness.com/economy/...to-a-recession


Thats just on the main page, I didn't actually dig. If anyone would want to pin this on the dems youd think Fox would pour that narrative on.
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Lol...we get it’s you slept at a Holiday Inn last night and talk to doctors at work.


Dr. Stewart here for our knowledge drop when we have an actual doctor with a medical degree in the video above.

Idiot.


Your complete lack of self awareness is so astonishing it has to be some kind of inverted super power.
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Trump vs Trump.

Down over 3000 points in 4 days. Buckle up
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Dow drops by the most points in a day ever. On Trumps watch.

1,191 points.

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There will be every illegitimate effort under the sun to create momentum that will remove your president.

Move along, and KAG!!
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