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We've discussed this in many other topics, but why not have a thread for itself? Discuss prospects, mocks, trades, whatever in here.

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1. Da'Quan Bowers * Clemson, DE, 6-4 277

Analysis: A possible No. 1 pick with Luck opting to stay in school, Bowers has followed through on his talent. A former top-rated overall recruit. Last week: No. 2

2. Nick Fairley * , Auburn, DT, 6-5 3106-5

Analysis: Fairley simply dominated and has one more showcase game for scouts. He often was a force even while not 100 percent. A top-10 lock currently. Last week: No. 3

3. A.J. Green * , Georgia, WR, 6-4 207

Analysis: Not sure people realize what kind of route-runner he's become. Green has worked hard to become a complete WR. Last week: No. 4


4. Patrick Peterson *, CB, 6-1 211

Analysis: An extraordinary athlete, Peterson doesn't just have safety size -- he'd measure up to a lot of RBs. Great total package -- cornerback and return game. Last week: No. 5

5. Prince Amukamara , Nebraska, CB, 6-1 202

Analysis: Top marks for instincts, ball awareness and ball skills. It's as if he's running the route sometimes. Immediate starter. Last week: No. 6


6. Marcell Dareus * , Alabama, DE 6-3 306

Analysis: A solid penetrator; pass-rush skills trump run-stopping performance thus far. Best suited at 4-3 DT, needs to show consistent effort to scouts. Last week: No. 7

7. Robert Quinn * North Carolina, DE, 6-4 267

Analysis: Great natural pass-rusher, solid athlete, serious motor. Still raw with time off, but scouts love his natural ability. Last week: No. 8

8. Blaine Gabbert * , Missouri, QB, 6-5 232

Analysis: Strong arm, good mobility, prototype in terms of physical skills. Ranked all year in my top QBs. Jumps with draft declaration, improved stock. Last week: NR

9. Von Miller , Texas A&M, LB, 6-3 243

Analysis: Miller proved that he's more than a sack artist this season. He showed coverage skills to go along with known pass-rush production. Edge burner. Last week: No. 9

10. Ryan Kerrigan , Purdue, DE, 6-4 259

Analysis: Led nation with 26 tackles for loss and became impossible to block, even against double-teams. Ideal as a 3-4 OLB but possible at DE in a 3-4. Last week: No. 14

11. Akeem Ayers * , UCLA, OLB, 6-4 251

Analysis: Exceptional athleticism makes him versatile. Ideal every-down 3-4 OLB who can rush the passer and cover. Top coverage skills of any OLB so far. Last week: No. 16

12. Cam Newton * , Auburn, QB, 6-6 250

Analysis: He has size and athleticism, but also underrated accuracy. Extends plays; good patience. Lacks experience and any time in pro-style scheme. Last week: No. 12

13. Julio Jones * , Alabama, WR, 6-4 211

Analysis: When healthy, Jones was impossible to stop; when not, he was still good in 2010. Overcame drop issues, improved route-running. Last week: No. 13

14. Justin Blackmon * , Oklahoma State, WR, 6-1 208

Analysis: Underrated size, good instincts, size and speed combo with ability to set up defensive backs. Highly productive, and not just a possession guy. Last week: No. 15

15. Adrian Clayborn, Iowa, DE, 6-3 282

Analysis: Good size, capable of lining up as 3-4 DE. Good motor; batters offensive linemen. Needs to refine rush skills. Last week: No. 19

16. Ryan Mallett * , Arkansas, QB, 6-7 238

Analysis: Mallett became far more than a big arm this season, but footwork and checkdown skills concern. Still a volatile stock. Last week: No. 11

17. Drake Nevis , LSU, DT, 6-1 289

Analysis: Lacks top-end size, but he's an explosive, up-the-field tackle with good pad level and leverage. Ideal three-technique, he plays with passion. Last week: No. 10

18. Nate Solder , Colorado, OT, 6-9 313

Analysis: A physical specimen, has great length, ability to add bulk to chiseled frame. Will shine in workout phase, and draft is short on elite offensive tackles. Last week: No. 17

19. Anthony Castonzo , Boston College, OT, 6-7 306

Analysis: Smart, reliable with solid footwork, but could add lower-body strength and overall bulk to improve leverage. Consistent worker; smart player. Last week: No. 18

20. Cameron Heyward , Ohio State, DE, 6-5 291

Analysis: On the Big Board most of the season, back on with dominating Sugar Bowl performance. Versatile, but ideal size to work as 3-4 DE. Last week: NR

21. Gabe Carimi , Wisconsin, OT, 6-7 327

Analysis: Had a fantastic fall, battling a number of likely high draft picks to standstills. Beaten by a speed rush in the past, his footwork improved greatly. Last week: No. 21

22. Janoris Jenkins * , Florida, CB, 5-11 185

Analysis: New to the board last week -- he's had an up-and-down season, but the physical skills are there; he also comes from a good system. Last week: No. 24

23. Mark Ingram * , Alabama, RB, 5-10 216

Analysis: Production dipped from last season, but Ingram was still explosive and physical after being dinged early. Solid finisher; top-end speed is in question. Last week: No. 22

24. Jake Locker , Washington, QB, 6-3 228

Analysis: Off-the-charts skill set and intangibles; solid character. Accuracy and work against top opposition suffered. Wild card. Last week: No. 23

25. Mike Pouncey , Florida, C/G, 6-4 310

Analysis: Bloodlines are there, as is a comparable skill set to brother Maurkice. Versatile interior blocker, ready to start. Last week: NR
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so, was luck listed as no. 1? why the hell would you opt to stay if people are listing you as no. 1? fuck that. not risking injury and losing my career. i can finish school after i sign that contract
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so, was luck listed as no. 1? why the hell would you opt to stay if people are listing you as no. 1? fuck that. not risking injury and losing my career. i can finish school after i sign that contract
Yes, and he wanted to go back to school and get his education, at least for the next year. Probably not the best move, but it was at least admirable.


High Mileage, I asked Dusty in another thread if he was interested in getting a group together to do a KCSR mock draft for the fun of it. No response, he probably didn't read it.

If you're interested I'm sure we could get a couple others together and work out a 1-3 round KCSR mock, see how well we do.
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like i said, i can finish my education after i sign that dotted line. i don't for 1 second think it's admirable, i only think it is completely stupid....UNLESS, he has no interest in playing and only did it to pay for his education and is ready to do whatever he is getting a degree for.
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like i said, i can finish my education after i sign that dotted line. i don't for 1 second think it's admirable, i only think it is completely stupid....UNLESS, he has no interest in playing and only did it to pay for his education and is ready to do whatever he is getting a degree for.
Don't forget there are other variables too.

Being drafted by Carolina, no CBA going into next year, etc.


This was the perfect time for him to come out in the draft, that seems to be a consensus right now. However, I don't think his choice to stay is either wrong, or stupid. Seems like there was quite a bit of strategy involved there to make the decision.
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High Mileage, I asked Dusty in another thread if he was interested in getting a group together to do a KCSR mock draft for the fun of it. No response, he probably didn't read it.
I'd be down for 1 round. I don't really have the free time to get into anything more in-depth...
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do you think the cba will be resolved before draft day? and if so, do you think he will try to go into the draft then? i mean, i don't really think there will be an issue with there not being a season, and i don't really think he will "lose" money if that is the concern. what other issues would arise other then then those 2?

and i think anyone who won't play because of the team that drafts them is stupid.
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do you think the cba will be resolved before draft day? and if so, do you think he will try to go into the draft then? i mean, i don't really think there will be an issue with there not being a season, and i don't really think he will "lose" money if that is the concern. what other issues would arise other then then those 2?

and i think anyone who won't play because of the team that drafts them is stupid.
I'm about to pass out for the night, I'll get back to you in the morning on the specifics.
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cool. just reply in here or pm or whatever tomorrow
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Will do. Gotta rest up for tomorrow's cheering!
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do you think the cba will be resolved before draft day? and if so, do you think he will try to go into the draft then? i mean, i don't really think there will be an issue with there not being a season, and i don't really think he will "lose" money if that is the concern. what other issues would arise other then then those 2?

and i think anyone who won't play because of the team that drafts them is stupid.
I think you have to declare by January 16th or return to school or maybe that's for underclassmen only?
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yeah, i forgot about the early declaring for underclassmen. isn't he a sophmore now? i don't follow much college football except when it's time to start looking towards the draft....lol
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yeah, i forgot about the early declaring for underclassmen. isn't he a sophmore now? i don't follow much college football except when it's time to start looking towards the draft....lol
good question , I am similar to you, only really follow college fb players is near draft.time
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Yes. No.

As for the CBA and all of that. I Believe the CBA will get worked out before the start of the regular season, but I think it might take quite a bit still and push into OTA's and training camp perhaps into the pre-season if they don't get on it RIGHT NOW. In the next CBA rookie salaries are primed to take a huge paycut. So, while I think Luck decided to say "fuck carolina" and go get his degree, or at least get closer to it and get a little bit better as a QB, he's not helping his case for dollar signs, he'll make less int he next draft than he would this year.

With that, peace out!
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I wonder if any of those corners will be around at no.13.

If not I'd go with Ingram or Von Miller.
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If any good QB is left on the board in the 1st round when we pick, we need to draft him
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No matter what fatguy says, Cassel is NOT a franchise guy.

He is still so far from being a starter in this league. Today proved that a lot. He is hot and cold and benefited statistically from playing the WEAKEST secondaries in the league for most of the season. He had ZERO targets to bowe and that is just unacceptable. He also looked like croyle out there when he was going fetal position before the defender even touched him.

We need a QB something fierce. Hopefully one of the top QBs falls to our spot in the first round. Because if we dont have a QB then there is no reason to get another WR.
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No matter what fatguy says, Cassel is NOT a franchise guy.

He is still so far from being a starter in this league. Today proved that a lot. He is hot and cold and benefited statistically from playing the WEAKEST secondaries in the league for most of the season. He had ZERO targets to bowe and that is just unacceptable. He also looked like croyle out there when he was going fetal position before the defender even touched him.

We need a QB something fierce. Hopefully one of the top QBs falls to our spot in the first round. Because if we dont have a QB then there is no reason to get another WR.
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I would like pouncey or a big NT
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Given the stupidity of the majority of your posts, forgive me for thinking you might be serious.
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