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Well if you didn't care about, why keep trying to justify it, and now you're "lolz broz, Idc bc it's not mine! But y u guiz giving me a hard time, fo realz?"
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Well if you didn't care about, why keep trying to justify it, and now you're "lolz broz, Idc bc it's not mine! But y u guiz giving me a hard time, fo realz?"
Because y'all are taking so much time out of your lives to dump on me when you could be doing something better
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It seems everyone here is an import broker but don't even acknowledge the 'show and display' laws which was how this one was brought in
It was acknowledged, and the only r34 currently (or ever) elgible for show/display exemption is the midnight purple gtr v spec.
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It was acknowledged, and the only r34 currently (or ever) elgible for show/display exemption is the midnight purple gtr v spec.
Since everybody on here is a Nissan Skyline friggin' import export broker master lol
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True or false....The car is over 25 years old?

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Just if it was that simple
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If it is indeed a uber rare show/display car, why does it have a florida title? Hint, because it's illegal.
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What state does it matter that the car is titled in?
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99% of the time "State Titled" and "State Registered" translates to "Illegally imported and titled as kit car". Cars that appear "legal" (to a state) can be impounded by the Feds. Likely, no. Possible, yes. It has happened before (in AZ, in particular) and may be stepped up if the Feds decide they're "fed up" (no pun intended) with the flouting of the law. Many illegally-imported Skylines roam the streets unmolested on a regular basis. However, there's always the chance that something goes wrong (usually due to an accident, a vandalism / theft, or simply an "anonymous call") that brings the car to "official" attention.

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However, despite countless tries of countless models, the Skyline with the exception of the 1999 GTR R34 V-Spec Early Model Limited Edition remains forbidden.

I mean it seems pretty cut and dry to me....so yeah.
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It doesn't but everyone knows illegal jdm's have florida titles first. Show me a california title and I'll be impressed.
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Because florida. You can title anything.
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for those stating R33 is the only legal one to import, its my understanding that you can import an R32 right now because of the 25-year threshold being crossed. https://one.nhtsa.gov/cars/rules/imp...l#Anchor-28852

I feel like I must be missing something when you guys keep saying R33.
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for those stating R33 is the only legal one to import, its my understanding that you can import an R32 right now because of the 25-year threshold being crossed. https://one.nhtsa.gov/cars/rules/imp...l#Anchor-28852

I feel like I must be missing something when you guys keep saying R33.
There are certain year R33s (I think 96?) that can be made legal with the addition of a few safety items (reflectors, lights, etc). That's why there are a few running around. Bimmertech would know all the details.

And no I didn't buy a ticket. Just laughed a little when I got a notification that the event was cancelled. I'm assuming the guy took the money and ran.
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for those stating R33 is the only legal one to import, its my understanding that you can import an R32 right now because of the 25-year threshold being crossed. https://one.nhtsa.gov/cars/rules/imp...l#Anchor-28852

I feel like I must be missing something when you guys keep saying R33.

I. Importing a Nissan Skyline.

The Nissan Skyline was not originally manufactured to comply with all applicable FMVSS. Such a vehicle that is less than 25 years old can only be lawfully imported into the U.S. if (1) it is determined eligible for importation by NHTSA and (2) it is imported by an RI or by a person who has a contract with an RI to bring the vehicle into compliance with all applicable FMVSS within 120 days of entry.
Import eligibility decisions are made on a make, model, and model year basis. NHTSA has determined that the R33 Model Nissan GTS and GTR ("Skyline") passenger cars manufactured between January 1, 1996 and June 30, 1998 are eligible for importation and has assigned vehicle eligibility number VCP-32 to those vehicles. (The import eligibility number is to be entered on the HS-7 Declaration form that is to be given to Customs at the time of entry, and alerts Customs that the vehicle may be lawfully imported by an RI or by a person who has a contract with an RI, even though the vehicle is not certified by its manufacturer as complying with all applicable FMVSS.)
To learn the modifications the petitioner started were needed to conform Nissan Skyline vehicles to the FMVSS, you should go to the Federal Docket Management System (FDMS) website at http://www.regulations.gov/ and access docket number �NHTSA-2005-22654� by following the online instructions for accessing the dockets available at that web site. You should note that the petition sought import eligibility for 1990-1999 Nissan GTS and GTR "Skyline" passenger cars. After granting the petition, the agency learned that the modifications identified in the petition were not sufficient to conform certain model and model year vehicles that were covered by the petition. The agency therefore partially rescinded its grant of eligibility, leaving only R33 model Nissan GTS and GTR passenger cars manufactured between January 1, 1996 and June 30, 1998 eligible for importation.
A list of RIs can be found on our website at http://www.nhtsa.dot.gov/cars/rules/import. You should consult the importers on that list to see whether any are willing to conform the vehicle that you seek to import to all applicable safety and bumper standards, and if so, what they would charge for that work.
If you decide to import the vehicle, one potential complicating factor is that the RI who petitioned NHTSA to determine the Nissan Skyline eligible for importation requested, and was granted, confidentiality with respect to the modifications needed to conform to the vehicle to certain of the standards. As a consequence, that importer (J.K. Technologies, LLC of Baltimore, Maryland) has claimed a proprietary interest in the modifications covered by the confidentiality grant. This does not preclude other RIs from attempting to modify the vehicle. However, should those importers not gain access to the modifications covered by the grant confidentiality, they will have to demonstrate to the agency, at the time they submit a conformity certification package for a Skyline, that they have made equivalent modifications that permit the vehicle to comply with the standards covered by the confidentiality grant.
Please note that we determined the vehicle eligible for importation based on its capability of being modified to comply with all applicable standards. We did not approve J.K. Technologies, LLC as the "exclusive" importer of the vehicle. As previously indicated, any other RI is free to import the vehicle, but will have to demonstrate in the conformity package submitted to the agency to obtain release of the conformance bond furnished at the time of importation that the vehicle has been brought into conformity with all applicable standards, including those covered by the grant of confidentiality to J.K. Technologies, LLC.
You should note that if you were to import the vehicle, the necessary modifications would have to be made by an RI, and that importer would have to certify to us that the vehicle conforms to all applicable FMVSS in effect on its date of manufacture before the vehicle could be released to be licensed or registered for on-road use. One of the reasons that an RI is required to import and modify a vehicle that was not originally manufactured to comply with all applicable FMVSS is because the RI stands in the stead of the vehicle's original manufacturer to provide the vehicle's owner with notification and remedy in the event that the vehicle is determined to contain a safety-related defect or a noncompliance with an applicable safety standard. Because the original manufacturer would not be responsible for the vehicle being in the U.S., it would have no legal obligation to perform this import safety responsibility.
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The Nissan Skyline was not originally manufactured to comply with all applicable FMVSS. Such a vehicle that is less than 25 years old can only be lawfully imported into the U.S. if (1) it is determined eligible for importation by NHTSA and (2) it is imported by an RI or by a person who has a contract with an RI to bring the vehicle into compliance with all applicable FMVSS within 120 days of entry.
Import eligibility decisions are made on a make, model, and model year basis. NHTSA has determined that the R33 Model Nissan GTS and GTR ("Skyline") passenger cars manufactured between January 1, 1996 and June 30, 1998 are eligible for importation and has assigned vehicle eligibility number VCP-32 to those vehicles. (The import eligibility number is to be entered on the HS-7 Declaration form that is to be given to Customs at the time of entry, and alerts Customs that the vehicle may be lawfully imported by an RI or by a person who has a contract with an RI, even though the vehicle is not certified by its manufacturer as complying with all applicable FMVSS.)
To learn the modifications the petitioner started were needed to conform Nissan Skyline vehicles to the FMVSS, you should go to the Federal Docket Management System (FDMS) website at http://www.regulations.gov/ and access docket number �NHTSA-2005-22654� by following the online instructions for accessing the dockets available at that web site. You should note that the petition sought import eligibility for 1990-1999 Nissan GTS and GTR "Skyline" passenger cars. After granting the petition, the agency learned that the modifications identified in the petition were not sufficient to conform certain model and model year vehicles that were covered by the petition. The agency therefore partially rescinded its grant of eligibility, leaving only R33 model Nissan GTS and GTR passenger cars manufactured between January 1, 1996 and June 30, 1998 eligible for importation.
A list of RIs can be found on our website at http://www.nhtsa.dot.gov/cars/rules/import. You should consult the importers on that list to see whether any are willing to conform the vehicle that you seek to import to all applicable safety and bumper standards, and if so, what they would charge for that work.
If you decide to import the vehicle, one potential complicating factor is that the RI who petitioned NHTSA to determine the Nissan Skyline eligible for importation requested, and was granted, confidentiality with respect to the modifications needed to conform to the vehicle to certain of the standards. As a consequence, that importer (J.K. Technologies, LLC of Baltimore, Maryland) has claimed a proprietary interest in the modifications covered by the confidentiality grant. This does not preclude other RIs from attempting to modify the vehicle. However, should those importers not gain access to the modifications covered by the grant confidentiality, they will have to demonstrate to the agency, at the time they submit a conformity certification package for a Skyline, that they have made equivalent modifications that permit the vehicle to comply with the standards covered by the confidentiality grant.
Please note that we determined the vehicle eligible for importation based on its capability of being modified to comply with all applicable standards. We did not approve J.K. Technologies, LLC as the "exclusive" importer of the vehicle. As previously indicated, any other RI is free to import the vehicle, but will have to demonstrate in the conformity package submitted to the agency to obtain release of the conformance bond furnished at the time of importation that the vehicle has been brought into conformity with all applicable standards, including those covered by the grant of confidentiality to J.K. Technologies, LLC.
You should note that if you were to import the vehicle, the necessary modifications would have to be made by an RI, and that importer would have to certify to us that the vehicle conforms to all applicable FMVSS in effect on its date of manufacture before the vehicle could be released to be licensed or registered for on-road use. One of the reasons that an RI is required to import and modify a vehicle that was not originally manufactured to comply with all applicable FMVSS is because the RI stands in the stead of the vehicle's original manufacturer to provide the vehicle's owner with notification and remedy in the event that the vehicle is determined to contain a safety-related defect or a noncompliance with an applicable safety standard. Because the original manufacturer would not be responsible for the vehicle being in the U.S., it would have no legal obligation to perform this import safety responsibility.
Questions regarding modifications to conform the vehicle to applicable emissions standards should be directed to the EPA.
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and that's where most of my question is coming from. the nhtsa is pretty clear that 25 years means you can import just about anything. right now there are a number of seemingly reputable companies importing R32s and offering them for sale; https://www.japaneseclassics.com/ for one. I've already reached out to them after reading a number of writeups on various sites (Doug Demuro is a bit of a douche but he's fairly public and did it back in 2015 then he did a follow up article about how he registered it without issue he then sold the car later on).

this is less about arguing that I'm right and more about making sure I'm not missing something. I've almost got the wife to agree to me being dumb and buying one from Japanese Classics.
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and that's where most of my question is coming from. the nhtsa is pretty clear that 25 years means you can import just about anything. right now there are a number of seemingly reputable companies importing R32s and offering them for sale; https://www.japaneseclassics.com/ for one. I've already reached out to them after reading a number of writeups on various sites (Doug Demuro is a bit of a douche but he's fairly public and did it back in 2015 then he did a follow up article about how he registered it without issue he then sold the car later on).

this is less about arguing that I'm right and more about making sure I'm not missing something. I've almost got the wife to agree to me being dumb and buying one from Japanese Classics.
I'm not sure what your question is. The info JDLM posted is vehicles less than 25 years old. Once it is older than 25, it can be imported and titled without issue.
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yeah I started another thread (since this one is dead and not to derail it anymore )

Bimmertech would know as well as OldSupra but he isn't on here much if at all. (but his case is "unique" due to Motorex)
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